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BLACK SABBATH avec Ozzy

Posté : 01 avr. 2007, 22:28
par brother of steel
Hail Brothers Of Metal! :D Ayant ressorti les albums du Sab avec Ozzy, je voulais savoir quel était votre disque favori du groupe sur cette période bénie des seventies? J'espère ne pas faire de doublon, mais j'ai cherché et n'ai trouvé nulle part un tel sondage. :hum: A vos souris donc. :bang:

Re: [ Sondage ] BLACK SABBATH avec OZZY

Posté : 01 avr. 2007, 22:30
par weik
Brother of Steel a écrit :J'espère ne pas faire de doublon, mais j'ai cherché et n'ai trouvé nulle part un tel sondage. :hum: A vos souris donc. :bang:
bah si je sais qu'il y en a déjà eu un mais je ne l'ai pas retrouvé non plus :D

C'est po grave, je revote pour Paranoid (il n'y a rien à jeter dessus) et le title track est un putain d'hymne :rock:

Posté : 01 avr. 2007, 22:38
par brother of steel
Pour ma part le "Bloody Sabbath". Le riff du milieu de la chanson titre tue absolument! :riff: Dans le grave, comme ça à cette époque c'est d'un heavy surprenant. :bang: Et puis ce qui suit est très mélodique tout en restant bel et bien du Sab! :diable:

Posté : 02 avr. 2007, 07:27
par Gaëtan
Il y avait déjà un sondage sur Black Sab avec Ozzy il me semble...
Pour moi, c'est Sabotage : le premier Black Sab que j'ai écouté, grâce à mon père qui l'avait.
Mais je trouve qu'il n'y a rien à jeter dans cette période du groupe, même si Never Say Die ! et Technical Ecstasy sont plus spaces et bizarres (clairement moins metal aussi). En dehors de ces deux albums assez spéciaux, il n'y a que des putains de chefs-d'oeuvre !!! :rock:

Posté : 02 avr. 2007, 10:15
par stef666
J'ai voté pour Volume 4 car c'est le premier que j'ai eu et que je me suis toujours pas remis d' Under the sun...
Mais n'importe lequel des 6 premiers pourrait faire l'affaire.

Posté : 02 avr. 2007, 10:23
par Le G@SP
Sabotage pour ma part :rock:

Posté : 02 avr. 2007, 10:51
par Yathin Lizzy
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath

Posté : 02 avr. 2007, 11:40
par DeathRider
Sabotage pour moi. J'ai hésité avec Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, mais Sabotage est plus agressif (raaaaah Symptom Of The Universe) et y a tout ce que j'aime chez Sabbath période Ozzy...

Posté : 02 avr. 2007, 15:30
par Dark Avenger
Master of Reality pour moi: leur album le plus heavy, et le premier que j'ai découvert( ça devait être en 95 je crois).

De toute manière, pour moi Master of Reality/Paranoid/1er album>Sabotage/Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.

Pour finir, je trouve Never Say Die/Technical Ecstasy pas si nuls que ça, voire même très agréables à écouter...mais surprenants.

Posté : 02 avr. 2007, 17:32
par norde
Le premier, mais je les adore tous hormis les deux derniers moins bons, difficile de choisir.
Le premier car il faut bien en choisir un et que c'est de là que tout a commencé.
:rock:

Posté : 02 avr. 2007, 20:08
par Everflow
Je pensais également que ce sondage existait déjà mais en fait non apparemment, bien vu Brother of Steel!

C'est la mi-période de ces 10 années que je préfère, de Vol.4 à Sabotage. Après entre ces 3 mon coeur balance en fonction des jours, là j'ai encore "Sabbra Cadabra" en tête alors va pour Sabbath Bloody Sabbath!

Posté : 03 avr. 2007, 20:29
par Everflow
Hop 2 bootlegs pour la route :

Un de 1970 je sais pas où : http://www.hjstath.com/fillwest1970/
et un autre en Suède en 1977 : http://www.hjstath.com/kytd-1977/

Posté : 03 avr. 2007, 23:42
par Ad Metal Eternam
Je dirai Paranoïd parce que ce disque m'a vraiment impressionné, alors que je l'ai découvert plus de 25 ans après sa sortie...

Robb Flynn avait dit, dans une des toutes premières interviews qu'il avait accordée à la presse, que l'intro de "Iron Man" lui avait carrément foutu les jetons même à l'époque où il avait découvert ce disque (très tard après sa sortie également).

Ca a été la même chose chez moi: cette intro m'a glacé les sangs à l'époque. Quant au disque, il n'a rien perdu de sa puissance, je trouve.

Juste derrière, je mets Sabotage et Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, qui contiennent de sacrés titres; les moins connus sont d'ailleurs très loin d'être les plus mauvais.

Posté : 04 avr. 2007, 10:16
par NicoGan
Dur ... Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (c'est le 1er que j'ai écouté, le 1er que j'ai acheté) :bang:

Posté : 05 avr. 2007, 17:43
par hallowedhail
J'hésite entre "paranoid" et "master of reality", j'aime les deux... bah va pour paranoid vu que j'ai découvert avec cet album et puis des titres comme "war pigs" c'est quand même la classe ultime!

Posté : 27 août 2008, 01:42
par Everflow
Une reprise de "She's Gone" (la ballade sur Technical Ecstasy)... en tchèque! La première version de la reprise aurait 30 ans, à l'époque les albums de Black Sabbath n'étaient même pas trouvables dans le pays...

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Almost 30 years ago Czech singer Marie Rottrova (whom you never heard of but she is still famous here) recorded a cover version of Black Sabbath - She´s gone. And because the original record (as most of the others form the western world) wasn´t available at that time here, she was very successful. The song itself is beatiful here but the perfomance by Ozzy is weak in my opinion.

Much later I had had a chance to hear the original and must say the Czech cover sounds better (maybe because of the lyrics). It may sound weird to you, but.....

I am sending the Czech song (TV appearance from 2005 or what) just to add to your collection. The singer is now in her sixties and this one belongs to one of her greatest hits:



Lately the song was performed in the Czech version of the TV contest ...IDOL by some pretty girl, see here:


Posté : 21 oct. 2008, 22:16
par Everflow
Iommi à propos de Paranoid :
Guitar World: Paranoid, Black Sabbath's 1970 breakthrough second album, is considered by many to be the band's finest hour.

Tony Iommi: "I think the reason that record turned out so well was that we had a long time to work out all the material. We were playing seven 45-minute sets each day in a dusty old club in Switzerland, in front of anywhere from three to two dozen people. Rehearsing like that for six weeks really tightened us up. It also enabled us to experiment more because we really only had enough songs for one set each day-certainly not seven. It gave us a chance to make stuff up and rearrange existing songs."

GW: What was the recording process like for that album?

Iommi: "We recorded it over the course of a few days in a tiny eight-track studio at Regent Sound in England. It was like recording in a garage. We stuck a mic in front of my cabinet, and I played the original track with the band, did an overdub and that was it. To us it was like going to a gig. We thought that a couple of days was plenty of time to record and mix and album."

GW: What prompted you to use Laney amplification on that album?

Iommi: "The reason was quite simple. Laney was from Birmingham, and so were we. They were a new company that started out at about the same time that we did, in 1968. They were very helpful to us, and we worked together. They gave us all the amplification we needed."

GW: You played a Fender Stratocaster on the first Sabbath album, but switched to a Gibson SG on Paranoid.

Iommi: "That was because my Strat broke while we were still recording the first album. The pickup broke, and in those days you couldn’t get any replacement pickups. My SG was my second guitar. It was always sitting around, and I never really played it. All of a sudden I had to get used to it. I used it ever since and have never looked back."

GW: Can you show us how you play the opening riff to “Paranoid”?

Iommi: "Sure. I’ve seen many guitarists play this riff in the seventh position, but that’s not where I do it. I play it in the 12th position – like this. [Figure 1] I play the riff here because this E5 chord voicing sounds distinctly darker than the same two notes played in the seventh position."

Posté : 06 déc. 2008, 11:12
par Everflow
Toujours Iommi, au sujet des prétendus morceaux inédits qui ont été découverts récemment, qui n'ont en fait pas été écrits par BLACK SABBATH :
BLACK SABBATH/HEAVEN AND HELL guitarist Tony Iommi recently spoke to Guitar World magazine about his 40 years in music, and one of the subjects broached by writer Chris Gill was the fact that a handful of BLACK SABBATH songs recorded in the band's early days when they were still known as EARTH — including "The Rebel", "When I Came Down" and "Song For Jim" — have yet to be released to this day.

According to Iommi, "We didn’t write those songs. They were written by a chap named Norman Haines. At the time we were managed by Jim Simpson, who was a local Birmingham guy. He insisted that we record these songs that his friend Norman had written. We just wanted to play, so we recorded them. We wanted to write our own songs and make our own record, but this was just an initial effort. We had never been in a recording studio in our lives before that. It was a very basic studio. Even back then we never really wanted those recordings to see the light of day. Those songs sound nothing remotely like BLACK SABBATH."

Posté : 06 déc. 2008, 11:44
par Holy Cross
Sabbath bloody Sabbath pour moi :bang: ... j'ai decouvert Sabbath avec cet album il y a bientôt 10 ans, j'ai eu du pot je l'avais acheté au pif!

J'ai hésité avec Sabotage qui est musicalement le plus abouti de la période Ozzy je trouve :bang:

Posté : 07 déc. 2008, 01:33
par Nathagnôle
j'aime toute la période avec Ozzy, mais l'album qui me fait salement triper comme un fou c'est MASTER OF REALITY, tellement sombre et puissant! argh! Mais le reste de la discographie est carrément gigantesque.

Posté : 19 févr. 2009, 01:24
par Everflow
Voici une réédition triple CD de Paranoid, avec une version Quadrophonic Mix de 1974 sur le CD 2, et des raretés sur le CD 3 :
On April 6th, Universal Music UK are issuing BLACK SABBATH's Paranoid as a three-CD Deluxe Expanded Edition. Paranoid is the first release in a set of Black Sabbath deluxe expanded editions. Each remastered album includes an additional disc of previously unheard outtakes, demos and instrumental tracks taken from the original studio sessions.

Paranoid is expanded to a triple-disc containing the extremely rare 1974 Quadraphonic mix of the album. The album also includes deluxe digipak gatefold packaging with expanded booklets containing rare and previously unseen photographs, comprehensive sleeve-notes telling the story behind each album and include images of rare single covers and memorabilia from the period.

Paranoid is the second album by the British heavy metal band Black Sabbath. It was released in the United Kingdom during September 1970, and contains some of their most famous work, including the songs 'Iron Man', 'War Pigs' and the title track. The album is regarded as a classic of the heavy metal genre and one of the most influental heavy metal albums. It has been certified 4x Platinum, having sold over four million copies in the US alone, making it Black Sabbath's best-selling album.

The 'Paranoid' single, released before the album, reached number four in the UK. Pushed by its success, the album hit number one in the UK, and is the only Black Sabbath album to have done so. The US release was held until January 1971, as the Black Sabbath album was still on the charts at the time of Paranoid's UK release. The album broke into the top ten in the US in March 1971, and would go on to sell four million copies in the US alone, with virtually no radio airplay.

Tracklisting for the rerelease is as follows:

Disc 1 (Original Album):
1. 'War Pigs'
2. 'Paranoid'
3. 'Planet Caravan'
4. 'Iron Man'
5. 'Electric Funeral'
6. 'Hand Of Doom'
7. 'Rat Salad'
8. 'Fairies Wear Boots'

Disc 2 (1974 Quadrophonic Mix):
1. 'War Pigs'
2. 'Paranoid'
3. 'Planet Caravan'
4. 'Iron Man'
5. 'Electric Funeral'
6. 'Hand Of Doom'
7. 'Rat Salad'
8. 'Fairies Wear Boots'

Disc 3 (Previously Unreleased Bonus Tracks):
(Tracks 1-8 recorded at Regent Sound Studios, June 16th and 17th, 1970)
1. 'War Pigs' (instrumental)
2. 'Paranoid' (alternative lyrical version)
3. 'Planet Caravan' (alternative lyrical version)
4. 'Iron Man' (instrumental)
5. 'Electric Funeral' (instrumental)
6. 'Hand Of Doom' (instrumental)
7. 'Rat Salad' (instrumental)
8. 'Fairies Wear Boots' (instrumental)

Posté : 02 avr. 2009, 21:35
par Everflow
Bill Ward raconte comment est né le morceau "Paranoid" :
Inspired by the rhythms of the Midland’s furnaces, drummer Bill Ward went on to conquer the world with BLACK SABBATH. He tells Ian Harvey about the band’s early days and the song that would change all their lives.

Do you recognise this song from these lyrics? “I love you but you don’t want to know me but I think you’re great and I want to see.”

Or how about these: “You and me are through I know but you’re on my mind all day long.”

How different rock history might have been had Black Sabbath’s Ozzy Osbourne and Geezer Butler not refined the lyrics of their last minute ‘album filler’ to begin: “Finished with my woman ‘cause she couldn’t help me with my mind, People think I’m insane because I am frowning all the time.”

That song, based on Tony Iommi’s iconic guitar riff, became 'Paranoid', one of the greatest heavy metal anthems of all time, and along with the album of the same name helped propel Black Sabbath to rock superstardom.

Now, 39 years after its 1970 release, the album Paranoid is being rereleased as a 3CD deluxe edition, featuring the original album, a quadraphonic mix and a disc full of instrumental and alternate versions.

Sabbath drummer Bill Ward recalls: “There was some spare tape left, so we said let’s see if we can get another song and we all went down the pub which is the best place to work - well, it was then - and when we got back Tony had got a really, really good riff.

“Tony and Geezer and myself just sat in and just started playing and it didn’t take long at all to have the song with all its parts pretty much done. I think within the afternoon it was taken care of.

“Ozzy had his jamming lyrics, almost rough stuff, as we jammed down the first things.

“It probably pretty much in the ballpark, his melody’s there. We did that with quite a lot of our songs and we would change that around until we reached the final album version.”

Posté : 05 avr. 2009, 16:50
par christine
Le premier bien sur !
J'ai découvert le METAL avec cet album qui appartenait à mon père et qui a bien vite fini dans ma chambre à l'époque :D et je l'ai toujours, il est dans un état assez terrible maintenant !
Je n'ai découvert les autres albums que beaucoup plus tard en fait :oops: J'avais trop peur d'être déçue par rapport au 1er...

Posté : 07 avr. 2009, 00:29
par metal militia
Master of reality....parce que c'est le premier album de BS que j'ai écouté. :D

Posté : 25 août 2009, 00:10
par Everflow
Après la réédition Deluxe triple CD de Paranoid, les autres albums des 70's vont suivre le même traitement en septembre :
According to Drowned In Sound, legendary heavy metal band BLACK SABBATH will have five more albums from its back catalogue reissued on September 21 through Universal Music in the U.K., with all five being made into deluxe editions with extras and incentives to purchase, such as new photos and liner notes (but no bonus tracks).

The albums to get the reissue treatment are as follows:

* "Vol 4" (1972)
* "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" (1973)
* "Sabotage" (1975)
* "Technical Ecstasy" (1976)
* "Never Say Die!" (1978)

The deluxe expanded editions of BLACK SABBATH's 1970 self-titled debut and 1971 third album "Master Of Reality" — both with alternate studio versions, demos and instrumentals of classic songs and in the case of the latter, previously released track "Weevil Woman" — were made available in June via Sanctuary/Universal Music.