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"Believe" par TSO, 2 chanteurs car leur line-up diffère entre l'est et l'ouest des USA :



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J'aime les 2 versions, mais la deuxième avec Nate Amor fait dresser les poils.

C'est musicalement un peu polissé par rapport à la version de Savatage ceci dit, mais rien qui ne la dénature.

Bonus, avec Zak :

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D'après Al Pitrelli, Jon Oliva et les autres membres discutent sérieusement d'une reformation, vu qu'ils ont le temps en ce moment :

http://bravewords.com/news/savatage-are ... l-pitrelli
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Alors ça comme nouvelle... Une fois de plus : je suis sous le choc ! :o
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Ça serait la meilleure nouvelle de la décennie. Vraiment.
Mais j'ai peine à y croire.
D'autant plus après la disparition de Paul O'Neil
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Talasquin a écrit :
10 nov. 2020, 12:09
Ça serait la meilleure nouvelle de la décennie. Vraiment.
Mais j'ai peine à y croire.
D'autant plus après la disparition de Paul O'Neil
Si justement sans Paulo Neil, ils pouvaient revenir à leur période Sirens/Dungeons are calling, je signe de suite.
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Mais peut être qu'en écoutant l'album encore quelques fois attentivement, t'arriveras à aimer quelques titres ou mêmes des riffs … en faisant abstraction de la voix bien sûr :D
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Belle surprise, en espérant que ça se concrétise ! Je ne leur demande pas de faire de nouveaux albums de toute façon mais juste d'exister :bave:
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Bertrand a écrit :
10 nov. 2020, 14:02
Talasquin a écrit :
10 nov. 2020, 12:09
Ça serait la meilleure nouvelle de la décennie. Vraiment.
Mais j'ai peine à y croire.
D'autant plus après la disparition de Paul O'Neil
Si justement sans Paulo Neil, ils pouvaient revenir à leur période Sirens/Dungeons are calling, je signe de suite.
:up: , mais il manque Criss Oliva
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Il y a Chris Caffery encore dans le groupe, il peut donner le change.
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Mouais
Ça reste très flou quand même
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L'interview est très intéressante, mais pour ce qu'elle raconte d'autre. ;) Notamment le fait qu'il a failli finir dans Black Sabbath...
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Jon Oliva a failli mourir du Covid19...
S'il faut voir le bon côté des choses, ça pourrait l'inciter à accélérer la reformation de Savatage, puisqu'ils travaillent tous régulièrement les uns avec les autres.
Jon Oliva, the American composer, multi-instrumentalist and singer who is best known as the founder of and keyboardist and lead vocalist for SAVATAGE, has revealed to "80's Glam Metalcast" that he battled COVID-19 for two months last year. "I had it for eight weeks, and I wouldn't have wished it on my worst enemy in the world," he said (as transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET). "I would not have wished it on anybody. It was brutal — it really was. It sucked. But I'm okay now. And I'm gonna be getting my vaccination here in the next week or so. And that's it. So I lived through it. [Laughs] They don't want me in Heaven. Christ doesn't me up there because the first thing I'm doing when I get to Heaven is I'm punching Paul O'Neill [late TRANS-SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA founder and SAVATAGE collaborator] and Criss Oliva [late SAVATAGE guitarist and Jon's brother] in the face."

Oliva also addressed the possibility of new SAVATAGE music in the not-too-distant future, saying: "Since [SAVATAGE's] Wacken [reunion] show in 2015, Chris Caffery, me and Al Pitrelli, we've been trading song ideas for a possible SAVATAGE thing over the phone. I go, 'Hey, this is great. This is great. This is cool.' But I've been writing SAVATAGE material since 2003, and I could do a quadruple double album, if I wanted to. So, yeah, we're trading off things, and we're looking at that. And we're working on a SAVATAGE live thing that we did in Cologne, Germany in 1997, and we're putting that together for a livestream thing. And it's really good. And I've been working on that. Al came down to Florida and we kind of beefed it up a little bit — not a lot, but just beefed it up a little bit, mixed some things."

Jon went on to say that he would personally "love" to see SAVATAGE recurrected, adding that "it's very possible." He said: "If it's gonna happen, we'll make an official announcement, but we have been working together, just because with the pandemic and all that, we're bored; there's nothing to do. So we've been trading ideas through e-mails and on the phone. Me and Al wrote three or four things together. Me and Chris Caffery have worked on a few things together. What else are we gonna do? There's nothing to do. So, yeah, we'll see what happens."

Oliva also revealed that he had been talking about a SAVATAGE comeback since before O'Neill died. "Paul and I had many meetings about it, and we were talking about, 'Well, if we did do it, what would we call it, and how would we operate it?'" he said. "And I said to him, 'Well, if we do it, we should call it 'Still The Orchestra Plays'. And me and Zak [Stevens] should sing a lot of songs together and have certain songs, so it would be the two lead singers.' And we'd feature all kinds of music — all the types of music. 'Cause SAVATAGE was never really one sort of bag, especially when Paul got involved. From 'Gutter Ballet' on, it was all kinds of different things, which was great — I thought it was great. And which led to TRANS-SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA."
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Il est de plus en plus évident qu'il se passe quelque chose, car ils ont écrit plein de chansons (de quoi remplir 3 albums selon Oliva) et tous les membres sont d'accord pour sortir un album. La seule chose qu'il manque désormais, et Oliva le dit lui-même (pour tâter le terrain certainement), c'est une maison de disques.
Jon Oliva, the American composer, multi-instrumentalist and singer who is best known as the founder of and keyboardist and lead vocalist for SAVATAGE, spoke to That Metal Interview about the possibility of new music from the cult metal outfit. He said (as transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET): "Ever since [SAVATAGE's 2001 album] 'Poets And Madmen', I have been writing SAVATAGE material. Me and [guitarists] Al Pitrelli and Chris Caffery, over the last couple of years, have been putting material together and writing stuff together.

"This is the thing: there is no official thing that we're going to do a SAVATAGE album; there's nothing official. Because you know what? As soon as I say, 'Yeah, we're gonna do a new SAVATAGE album,' something will happen to fuck it up. And then I look like a liar. So all I'm gonna say is there are many surprises in the future.

"We don't know what's going to happen," he continued. "We're not sure. But we're writers; we write. And we have — dude, just me alone, I have enough songs for three SAVATAGE albums, okay? And so, yeah, we write because we like working together. And because of the pandemic and stuff, a lot of the stuff that we've been just fiddling around with each other, we've done it over the phone and over the Internet: 'Here, I've got this. What do you think?' 'Oh, I love it.' And I'll send Al something over the phone. He'll send me something. Caffery will send me something or I'll send him something. Because you don't know.

"The world today is different, and I don't want to say to people, 'Hey, we're gonna do a new SAVATAGE album,' and have something come along to fuck it all up.

"No one knew that this COVID-19 shit was gonna happen. And who knows? Yeah, there's the vaccine now, but they're already saying, 'Oh, there's different strands of it now,' and, 'Who knows?', and this and that and blah blah blah blah."

Oliva went on to say that he and his SAVATAGE bandmates "would all love" to make a new studio album. "But there's no deal with a record company to do it," he explained. "There's no plan — actual plan — saying we're gonna start recording SAVATAGE. There's no plan like that. All we're doing, as being musicians and songwriters, is we're compiling new material. So if we do get, 'Hey, why don't you guys do this? We've got a company that wants to give you guys [a deal], we're gonna be prepared.

"A lot of the fans, which it makes me upset, because SAVATAGE fans, I love them so much, because they have never, ever turned their backs on SAVATAGE — ever. And I just don't want to lead them down a road of false shit," he added. "If something happens where we say, 'Okay, we're ready to do this. Let's do it, guys,' I will be the first person to make a professional press release to tell everybody. But I just don't want to, because it's not solidified in stone right now. Do we wanna do it? You bet your fucking ass we wanna do it. But do we have the material for it? You bet your fucking ass we have enough material for another 10-year run. But all I can say is if we do a SAVATAGE thing, it's gonna fuck you people up — it's gonna be fucking blowaway."
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Une maison de disque qui veut signer Savatage pour un album que les fans attendent depuis des années cela ne devrait pas être difficile à trouver...
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J'sais pas c'est quand même ambitieux Savatage, c'est le genre de groupe coûteux et qui vend pas non plus des disques par millions... ça a été sur des majors la grande majorité de la carrière... pis y a le Transiberian Orchestra qui cartonne. À voir ce qu'ils attendent, mais même si c'est un groupe prestigieux j'ai pas le sentiment qu'il y ait une attente monstrueuse à part de la fan base vieillissante.
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Ouais c'est un groupe de notre génération en gros, et les jeunes ne savent pas ce que c'est donc le marché sera un peu limité je crains.
Mais je croise les doigts !
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Je pense quand même qu'entre Napalm, Nuclear Blast ou Frontiers (surtout ces derniers, qui adorent recycler les vieilles gloires), ils devraient pouvoir trouver quelque chose. Reste juste à trouver un contrat qui convienne à tout le monde :)
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Savatage chez Frontiers ça me ferait mal au coeur...
Perso je vois bien Nuclear Blast sauter sur l'occasion.
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Nuclear Blast ou Napalm c'est un peu les seuls qui peuvent s'aligner oui, mais j'imagine que le groupe vise une major genre Universal, Sony ou ce genre de truc comme pour le TSO, ils avaient déjà été "rétrogradé" SPV et Nuclear Blast USA pour le dernier album et je suis pas certain que le label ait répondu aux attentes. Après j'en sais rien... Frontiers ça sera quand même tombé bas, manquerait plus que le label leur impose des compositeurs italiens :D
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ça va finir avec un changement de nom tout ça... Jorn Lande & Joe Lynn Turner's Savatage featuring Jon Oliva and Annette Olzon :lol:
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On dirait que c'est parti cette fois, puisqu'ils sortent un vinyle sur le label de Deep Purple et Alice Cooper.
Même le site web a été mis à jour : https://savatage.com/

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Et ils s'appuient sur un morceau de The Wake of Magellan pour ce faire.
Bizarre.
Mais bon, tout est bon à prendre avec ce groupe.
Espérons que ça soit suivi d'autres sorties, annonces (tournées ?)
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Ils rééditent également Sirens et Dungeons are Calling en vinyle. Tous les albums suivront.
Tout cela est évidemment le préalable à autre chose, en tout cas ce serait logique.

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Je cherchais le Sirens avec cette pochette depuis longtemps, à un prix raisonnable. ouf Tant mieux
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Jon Oliva retombe dans ses travers. Après sa récente attaque cardiaque qui a failli le tuer, il disait avoir appliqué des changements dans sa vie. Mais ça n'aura pas duré longtemps.

Il vient d'être retrouvé seul dans son véhicule accidenté, et a été amené à l'hôpital. Il avait 2 bouteilles de vodka (vides) et de la cocaïne sur lui, et suite aux analyses toxicologiques il sera jugé pour conduite sous "influence" (traduction littérale) / état d'ivresse.

J'avoue ne lui trouver aucune excuse, car pour rappel son frère Criss Oliva a été tué dans un accident de voiture, à cause d'un chauffard ivre comme lui. N'a-t-il toujours rien appris? Il devient plus qu'urgent qu'il se fasse prendre en charge, entre la drogue, l'alcool et son surpoids (150 kgs) on dirait qu'il est dans une espèce de spirale suicidaire, sauf que là il aurait très bien pu tuer quelqu'un d'autre.
Legendary SAVATAGE singer John Nicholas "Jon" Oliva was arrested earlier this week on the west central coast of Florida for driving under the influence as well as possession of a controlled substance.

The Pasco County Jail web site shows the 62-year-old musician was arrested at 3:43 a.m. on Thursday (September 30) and was released on bail less than 24 hours later — at 12:34 a.m. on Friday (October 1).

Police charged Oliva with possession of cocaine, which is a felony, and DUI, which is a misdemeanor.

According to a Florida Highway Patrol arrest report, police and EMS responded to a single-vehicle crash on U.S. Hwy 41 (SR-45) shortly before 1:00 a.m. local time on Thursday, September 30 in Pasco County, Florida. In his report, the responding officer wrote: "When I arrived on scene the driver of the vehicle was out and away from his pickup truck being checked by EMS. I observed a pickup truck with severe damage to the front right of the vehicle. The passenger side door had been ripped off the collision with the tree that the vehicle had struck. Mr. Oliva was the driver of the vehicle. On scene Mr. Oliva fainted and hit the ground while EMS was checking on him. Due to this reason Mr. Oliva was flown off the scene and taken to [the hospital].

"On scene I Conducted an inventory of the vehicle," the officer continued. "In the vehicle I located two empty bottles of vodka. I also found a small clear bag with an unknown white substance. The unknown substance would be field tested and would show a positive hit for cocaine. The clear plastic bag with the unknown white substance was located right on the floor outside the driver's side door. I then spoke to a witness via telephone. The first witness I spoke with told me that he was driving northbound on U.S. Hwy 41 (opposite way of Mr. Oliva) and watched as the vehicle drove into his lane and then off the roadway and heard a loud bang. [The witness] told me he then turned his car around and went to check on the driver of the vehicle. [He] witnessed Mr. Oliva at the driver's wheel. I then spoke to another witness who lives directly across the street from where the accident happened. [The second witness] told me he was working outside when he heard the accident happen right across the street. [The second witness] told me he went over to where the crash happened and watched as the vehicle was smoking and the driver was in the driver's seat. [The second witness] told me that he tried to get the driver of the vehicle away from the vehicle due to it smoking. [The second witness] told me that there was another empty bottle of vodka in the driver's side door that he told the driver to throw away because it doesn't look good. [The second witness] told me that the driver was frantically looking his phone.

"At this time, I went to the hospital to speak with Mr. Oliva," the officer added in his report. "At approximately 9:46 PM I advised Mr. Oliva that I had finished my crash investigation and would be conducting a criminal investigation for Driving under the influence. Miranda warnings were read at this time. Mr. Oliva told me he understands what his rights are and that he is ok with speaking with me. I asked Mr. Oliva if he was the driver of the vehicle during the accident. Mr. Oliva told me he was the driver. I asked Mr. Oliva if anyone else was in the vehicle. Mr. Oliva stated he was the only occupant of the vehicle. I asked Mr. Oliva if he had taken or drank anything after the crash occurred. Mr. Oliva stated he did not take anything after the crash happened. I asked Mr. Oliva if he had any medical conditions. Mr. Oliva stated he has high blood pressure and diabetes. Nurses on staff advised me that he was perfectly fine in regard to his blood sugar and blood pressure levels. I asked Mr. Oliva if he had been drinking today. Mr. Oliva stated he did have a couple orange juice and vodkas. I then told Mr. Oliva that I found a bag of white powder substance that tested positive for cocaine. Mr. Oliva then stated, 'someone gave me that for my birthday.' I asked Mr. Oliva if he uses cocaine and he stated, 'I dabble around with it.' Mr. Oliva stated to numerous nurses at hospital that the cocaine was his. The nurses at hospital listened as Mr. Oliva yelled at his wife on the phone about the cocaine being in his car. I then asked Mr. Oliva if he would be willing to sign a form that would allow me to have access to his medical blood records to see his blood alcohol content. I told Mr. Oliva that this is 100% voluntary. Mr. Oliva told me that he had no problem with signing over his medical records. Mr. Oliva had a blood alcohol content of .138 G/210L.

"Mr. Oliva would end up being admitted into the hospital due to his injuries. Mr. Oliva was placed under arrest at approximately 12:13 PM on 09/30/2021.

"Mr. Olivas property was searched. I found another clear plastic bag containing residue of a white substance. The bag with the residue was in a pack of cigarettes in Mr. Olivas bag. Mr. Oliva had his wallet and personal belongings in the bag. Mr. Oliva told me that the bag was his that contained the clear bag with a white substance."

Oliva's booking photo released by the Pasco County Sheriff's Office shows him wearing a hospital gown and sporting what appear to be fresh scrapes on his nose and left cheek.

More information on Oliva's arrest can be found using the Florida online court records search.

Back in 2016, Jon announced on social media that he suffered a stroke in April of that year. At the time, he said: "It was not as serious as it could have been, but it did leave me with some physical recovery challenges often associated with strokes."

Despite his health issues, Jon said that he didn't regret the way he had lived his life. He wrote: "I lived the rock 'n' roll lifestyle since I was 18. It's all I knew and I enjoyed the ride very much. But there comes a time in everyone's life where you have to step back and make some life-changing decisions... which I have."

Shortly after SAVATAGE's reunion performance at the 2015 Wacken Open Air festival in Wacken, Germany, Oliva claimed that he felt better than he had in 20 years because he had "stopped drinking and eating" in preparation for the concert. He explained: "It's my voice that's freaking me out, because, even when I was in my late 20s, early 30s, doing songs like '24 Hours Ago' were always really hard to do. And, of course, I didn't realize that it was all the drugs and alcohol I was doing. But, after doing that, getting my act together and stuff, singing '24 Hours Ago', it's actually easy now. [Laughs]"

In the past, Oliva has spoken openly about going a "little too far" during SAVATAGE's 1988 tour with MEGADETH and living the "rock 'n' roll life" that eventually forced him to seek treatment at a chemical rehabilitation center. As a result, SAVATAGE had to cancel a scheduled tour, including European dates.

In 2012, Oliva told Metal Blast about his early problems with drugs and alcohol: "We were crazy, but we were having so much fun. We were all in our prime, just loving to have a great time. Back then, you just got caught up in it; before you even realized you had a drug problem, it was already too late, because everywhere you went people were giving you pot, coke, a drink… I mean, I never went anywhere from 1984 to 2001 when someone hadn't tried to give me drugs or alcohol."

In addition to his work with SAVATAGE, Oliva is well known for co-creating the classical music-meets-prog rock and pyro act TRANS-SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA alongside the project's founder Paul O'Neill. Oliva has reportedly remained involved in TSO's activities even after O'Neill's April 2017 death of an accidental drug overdose.

This past March, Oliva revealed to "80's Glam Metalcast" that he battled COVID-19 for two months last year. "I had it for eight weeks, and I wouldn't have wished it on my worst enemy in the world," he said (hear audio below). "I would not have wished it on anybody. It was brutal — it really was. It sucked. But I'm okay now. And I'm gonna be getting my vaccination here in the next week or so. And that's it. So I lived through it. [Laughs] They don't want me in Heaven. Christ doesn't me up there because the first thing I'm doing when I get to Heaven is I'm punching Paul O'Neill and Criss Oliva [late SAVATAGE guitarist and Jon's brother] in the face."

Jon's brother Criss, who was one of the founding members of SAVATAGE, was killed in October 1993 by a drunk driver when he and his wife Dawn were en route to the Livestock festival in Zephyrhills, Florida. The driver of the other car was found to have a drunk driving record of seven prior DUIs and having a blood alcohol content of .294 percent.
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