Maintenant que l'album est sorti, vous pouvez en parler dans la "chro" de "Cryptic Writings"
Je l'achete des que je peux la semine prochaine pour ma part.
GANDALF
"Seize the day or die regretting the time you lost
It's empty and cold without you here, too many people to ache over"
Je l'ai vu ce matin en faisiant les courses.
ça me fait tout drôle de voir un "nouveau" Guns N' Roses.
Et il n'y en avait pas beaucoup, juste une quinzaine, comparé à Metallica et AC/DC, c'est un peu light...
Il fallait s'y attendre, l'album génère un peu de controverse en Chine où le site officiel aurait été banni par les autorités de censure. Sans grand effet, puisque le myspace y est accessible...
AFP is reporting:
China's Internet censors appeared to be trying to block fans Monday from accessing websites related to GUNS N' ROSES' first album in 17 years, which is provocatively titled Chinese Democracy.
The album's official site chinesedemocracy.com was inaccessible in communist China and Internet portal Baidu.com blocked music-related searches for Chinese Democracy.
However, Chinese Internet users were still able Monday morning to listen to the album's 14 songs on MySpace.com, the band's homepage remained accessible and bloggers were allowed to have their voices heard.
China's Ministry of Culture appeared to be immune to the global hype surrounding the album headed by Guns N' Roses frontman Axl Rose, 46, the only member of the band's original line-up involved in the recording.
"This is the first time we've heard about it," a ministry spokeswoman said, when asked about the album and reports that it had been banned in China.
"I don't know if they're banned or not," she said. "It might be a rumour."
The album's official website responded with a poll asking visitors if they thought the Chinese should be allowed to access it -- about 70 percent of respondents said yes.
Like critics' reviews, reaction from Chinese music fans has been mixed.
"I feel GNR has a mocking, misunderstanding and disdainful view of our country," an Internet user who identified herself as Tiffany in Guangzhou wrote on Douban.com, a pop culture social networking site.
But many participants suggested an angry knee-jerk reaction was unwarranted.
"You are judging it just from the album's name. Did you ever try to listen to it, understand it and think about it?" a male from Guiyang, calling himself Mr Lee, wrote on the same forum.
Another music fan appealed to Internet users to show more sophistication.
"Green Day could have an album named 'American Idiot', but if a band released an album named 'Chinese Idiot', whatever the content or motivation, Chinese patriots would be outraged," wrote Shippo7, a Beijing male.
Western rock critics have also shown little restraint.
Rolling Stone described the album as a "great, audacious, unhinged and uncompromising hard-rock record" but the New York Times said it was the "Titanic of rock albums: the ship, not the movie."
I'm the lost one chasing colors to the sun
Colors bleed but never fade
Après plusieurs écoutes de quelques titres, j'aime vraiment pas. Sale déception pour moi, je trouve que ça fait vraiment album de radio américaine moderne, super banal.
Bon, ben cette histoire, ça craint du boudin !!
Apparemment, les avocats de Guns' n Roses et d'Axl Rose veulent punir la marque Dr Pepper pour avoir été incapable de tenir sa promesse et pour avoir utilisé l'image et la réputation du groupe à des fins publicitaires !
D'un autre côté les avocats de Guns exigent des excuses dans la presse de la part de Dr Pepper mais aussi une obligation de tenir sa promesse (Une canette gratuite pour chaque américain).
GUNS N' ROSES new album Chinese Democracy scored a record 8.4 million streams when the album debuted on MySpace beginning midnight on Thursday, November 20 through midnight Sunday, November 23. The premiere of Chinese Democracy was the biggest promotion in MySpace's five year history, with every MySpace territory signing on to participate.
Le parti communiste chinois a officiellement dénoncé l'album comme "une attaque envers la nation chinoise" :
The Pulse of Radio reports that a newspaper published by China's ruling Communist Party has blasted the new GUNS N' ROSES album, "Chinese Democracy", calling it an attack on the Chinese nation. According to The Associated Press, Chinese paper The Global Times ran a story headlined "American band releases album venomously attacking China," in which unidentified Chinese Internet users described the album as part of a plot by Westerners to "grasp and control the world using democracy as a pawn." The article did not refer to any specific songs or lyrics, just the CD's name, although the title track itself takes a poke at China's authoritarian government.
Spokespersons for China's Foreign Ministry, Culture Ministry, and State Administration of Radio, Film and Television either had no response or could not be reached for comment.
TV reportage sur l'interdiction de l'album en Chine :
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I'm the lost one chasing colors to the sun
Colors bleed but never fade
pas d'accord. Plus je l'écoute,plus je l'apprécie.
Y a de bons plans de gratte, axl chante bien , les compos rentrent pas facilement dans la caboche mais au fil des écoutes, c'est de mieux en mieux. Un album qui se révèle sur la longueur. Bon ça valait pas 14 ans d'attente mais j'en attendais rien et finalement je suis séduit.
c'est marrant mais hier a la machine a café au travail je discutais avec 3 fans qui l'ont acheté,les réactions ?
un l'a revendu,un autre m'a dit que ca valait rien et le troisieme ne veux pas faire de commentaires tellement il est vénere... quel bide cet album !
En parlant de bide, Best Buy pensait décrocher le gros lot avec leur exclusivité et avait commandé 1 300 000 exemplaires de l'album... ils en ont vendu 318 000.
Zac Bissonnette from Bloggingstocks.com is reporting:
GUNS N' ROSES long-awaited "Chinese Democracy" album has been a flop, sticking Best Buy with hundreds of thousands of unsold copies that "seem destined for the bargain bin", according to the Wall Street Journal.
In the first two weeks, the CD has sold 318,000 copies. Problem: Best Buy bought 1.3 million copies up-front.
But with 1.3 million copies sold up-front to the exclusive retailer, Axl Rose may not have seen a need to go and promote the album aggressively. He reportedly declined interviews with Rolling Stone and The New York Times. Best Buy agreed not to return any CDs, so Interscope is off the hook as well.
An insider at Interscope, the band's label told The Sun that he thinks the album would have done much better if Rose was prepared to do some promotion, especially since he worked 15 years on the album.
I'm the lost one chasing colors to the sun
Colors bleed but never fade
Je n'en ai rien entendu, mais c'est intéressant de voir comme ça partage les auditeurs:
- il y a ceux qui sont très déçus (majoritaires j'ai l'impression)
- et ceux qui après pas mal d'écoutes sont vraiment séduits (portion non négligeable quand même).
Du coup, je ne sais pas trop si je vais me pencehr dessus un jour
Gaëtan: "Reste plus qu'à interdire les citations dans les signatures... "