"Reformation" Anthrax => Worship Music

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Bien fait pour leur gueule, z'avait qu'à pas virer Bush.

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[Gaëtan]

Ils ont qu'à reprendre Neil Turbin.

[over'phil]

Si Anthrax n'as plus de chanteur, je trouve ça con car en faite le DVD live était bon et les shows qu'ils avaient donné avec le line up d'origne avaient bien marché.

[weik]

Bien fait pour leur gueule, z'avait qu'à pas virer Bush.

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[Chacal]

Bah entre Blaze, Di Anno et le Ripper qui savent pas quoi foutre, ils ont l'embarras du choix

[weik]

Bah entre Blaze, Di Anno et le Ripper qui savent pas quoi foutre, ils ont l'embarras du choix

En même temps je les vois pas dans le groupe non plus

[Mc Brain]

Je suis d'accord avec ceux qui n'ont pas apprécié l'éviction honteuse de Bush.

[Everflow]

Dans cette interview, Joey explique qu'il aurait bien aimé enregistrer un nouvel album d'Anthrax... au milieu de propos très flous, il ne veut visiblement pas tout dire :

http://www.rockmymonkey.com/interviews/ ... adonna.php

[Everflow]

Et voilà c'est reparti, Belladonna et Ian/Benante (re)commencent à se fritter ou du moins s'accuser mutuellement par médias interposés

Si vous avez le courage de lire tout ce qui suit...

Q: Scott Ian [ANTHRAX guitarist] said in his statement that was released on January 24 that ANTHRAX was offered a direct-support slot on a major tour and that you decided that you did not want to move forward. He also said that they tried to make it work, but that it just could not work out. He also mentioned that "the problems that were there could not be fixed no matter how hard we tried and in the end Joey made the decision." So he basically said that in the end, it was your decision to leave the band and that they wanted to carry on. In Charlie's [Benante, ANTHRAX drummer] statement (issued on January 31), he says, "I tried so hard to make things work and put in hours and hours or phone calls or as I'd like to call it 'therapy.' Certain people have 'issues,' had 'em in the '80s/'90s and still have them to this day. I think it's true that some people are best at what they do worst..." Basically, they both pretty much make it appear as if you were the one that kind of put an end to this reunion whereas I think everybody was sort of expecting this lineup to go ahead and do a new record and try to continue. Is it fair to say that you were the one that made the decision to put an end to this? Did you quit ANTHRAX?

Joey Belladonna: "Dude, all I know is that they wrote a letter and I got a call. Whether they wanna believe we had an opportunity to continue or not, they just wrote the letter and that's all. I don't care what they say at this point. You have to remember — it's their band, it's their call. They make the call. I don't care how they wanna phrase it. It's been like that since day one. And if it doesn't go their way, then that's the way they make the decisions, you know."

Q: When you say you got a letter…

Joey Belladonna: "That letter I'm talking about — that one [from Scott Ian that was posted] on Blabbermouth. I didn't even know anything was done officially at that point until I saw that. That's when I assumed, 'OK, now we're completely done.' If I can backtrack, really, we went longer than I thought we were gonna go, as far as the reunion. I thought it was just gonna be… you know, we're gonna do what we could do and I figured that they wanted to resume with their band. Everybody wanted to do baby steps, kind of thing, when you first start, when you're doing that stuff. No one came in and said, 'Alright, how long are we gonna do this, 'cause I've gotta know, because I've gotta make plans or I'm not gonna be able to do this unless I know for sure.' It's like dating somebody — 'I've gotta know if you're gonna be with me forever.' It wasn't like that — nobody knew what was going on. God, just before these letters came out, I read something that Charlie, in one of the magazines [referring to a Metal Edge interview that was published in August 2006 — Ed.], was saying, 'I miss John [Bush, former ANTHRAX vocalist],' and how he wanted to play with him [again], and I'm like, 'God, what the hell are they talking about?' You get all kinds of stuff. It's just nice to have an effort when you can work together about things. It's not like we were confirming anything in particular — we fulfilled as much as we could, and we went a lot longer than anybody thought we would, I think, maybe. Again, I didn't know if they were opening up a new door to be a brand new band — no one really went into it with that; we just wanted to go out and do a great job and play as a band, and if something [more had] happened, it would have been great."

Q: So what is Scott referring to when he says, "The problems that were there could not be fixed no matter how hard we tried?"

Joey Belladonna: "I have no idea what problems he's talking about. I mean, hell, their problems could be other problems. My problems could be problems that aren't problems. I don't know…"

Q: Were there issues with songwriting input [for the new material that the band was working on]?

Joey Belladonna: "We didn't even get there. I didn't even go there. I wasn't even really officially talking to these guys at all [about writing a new record] during that time. The only time you heard something about [new] songs, it was like, 'Yeah, it would be great to do a record.' Or, 'We'll come out with a record.' Of course, they'll come out with a record. ANTHRAX is a band, regardless of if there's two other guys or three other guys, they're gonna come out with a record. Like they're doing right now. It's like, 'If you're not in, then he'll be in. And 'If he's not in, he'll be in.' Look back for just a second, if you think about it… Where's Danny [Spitz, guitar] in all this stuff? I mean, forget about me…"

Q: Yeah, actually, I wanted to ask you about that as well…

Joey Belladonna: "Well, that's a mystery. Where is he? What's going on with him? Forget about me. Let's look at him first. 'Cause he is part of that reunion. So what happened? It all fell apart…? Or there's problems…? It's like… When you're a band, you've got all kinds of things you have to make sure that are in your place and in your favor, and [you have to consider] your needs, too. And if it's all about other things, you have to work them out."

Q: When Charlie says, "I tried so hard to make things work and put in hours and hours or phone calls or as I'd like to call it 'therapy,'" what is he talking about?

Joey Belladonna: "I don't know what he's talking about."

Q: Have you guys spent hours and hours on the phone trying to work things out?

Joey Belladonna: "I haven't. I mean, he's talked with me, he's talked with my wife, he's talked with everybody. I mean, that's just part of being in a band anyhow. We don't nearly talk that much, believe me. I mean, there's not that much talk. I mean, if I talk with you and you wanna talk about things, but if it doesn't go your way… well, if it doesn't go a certain way, that means you just… that's it? I mean, c'mon… You always work through things if you have to — if you can. I don't get into airing all kinds of shit out, I'm not gonna get into all that crap — I just don't do it; I never have and I never will. I mean, if you wanna look back, I never harbored any old shit; I don't really care about all that. I mean, if you wanna get into that, there's a lot of stuff that wasn't in my favor long ago, but you think I cared when I got back with those guys? It's got nothing to do with that, really, at all."

Q: I'm just puzzled as to exactly what the issue was. 'Cause it just seems very odd that they would…

Joey Belladonna: [interrupting] "You'll never know. And if you do know, it'll be one-sided, so…"

Q: Is there anything you can think of that might have been an issue? Has anything been brought up to you that you guys needed to work on before this could go ahead? 'Cause Scott's saying that there was a tour offered…

Joey Belladonna: [interrupting] "There [were] tours offered all the time. Look, we've done a bunch of tours. We were done doing the [ROB] ZOMBIE thing before October, before we went to Japan, and we weren't offered pretty much anything. At that point I thought we might have been on a hiatus — I didn't know what was going on until the Japan show came in. I mean, whether you get a show or not, we're trying to… You wanna make sure you know what the hell you're doing before… You don't just do things all the time. And that's all we did — just jump on, and jump on, and jump on. You have to evaluate things a little bit, too, when you're doing stuff. You just don't… People knock on your door and say, 'Come on, our car is running. Let's go.' You've gotta think about what you're doing all the time. When it's not your band, you need to know a lot. You need to know what you're doing. You just don't do it blindfolded."

Q: When was the last time that you actually had a conversation with Charlie or Scott about your status in the band?

Joey Belladonna: "I only talked with Charlie and I talked with him maybe… I don't know, maybe a month ago…? Two months? A month and a half ago."

Q: And when you last spoke with Charlie, was it basically, "That's it, we're done," or was that not even raised at that point?

Joey Belladonna: "We didn't really know. There were just things we were trying to figure out what we could do and how we could things. You don't know things overnight. It's not like it's cut and dried. I suppose if you were together… Remember, I was with those guys for eight, nine, ten years, and I was out for 13, so here I am coming back in, and it's just… you wanna know… People would say, 'Why'd you go into it in the first place?' And I go, 'Why not? What did you think, I wouldn't do it? Certainly I'd do it.' I think I did quite well with them. Everything went well. So I can't complain."

Q: So you're saying there was never any discussion about you actually getting in there and writing, or helping to write, material for the new record?

Joey Belladonna: "He [Charlie] brought it up on that one phone call, but it's not like we sat around and assured that I would be doing a record. I mean, there was hypotheticals that we'd possibly do a record. But who's to say that I would even be there when they were doing it? We don't know. We never really got into all that kind of stuff really deeply. I mean, there's no way possible… I don't know what would happen. I had no recollection of any kind of scenario to paint for you for that. I mean, they were at the beginning stages [of the writing process] as it is."

Q: So when Scott says that you decided that you did not want to move forward, is that not true?

Joey Belladonna: "Scott wrote that — you never heard it from my mouth that I didn't wanna move forward. I was doing other things. I mean, if he says I didn't wanna move forward, I guess I'm not moving forward. They can say whatever they want."

Q: These solo gigs that you are doing right now, I know some of them were booked a few weeks ago…

Joey Belladonna: "I get 'em whenever. Like, they called me tonight with a gig. I just get calls. Sometimes you don't get a gig because you're still waiting on another one so you wanna put 'em together so you can drive from one to the other. Like I said, I was done for a while, and I wanted to do something. I mean, I sat around for so long."

Q: So you were planning on doing solo gigs even while you were still in ANTHRAX?

Joey Belladonna: "Not necessarily, no. I just felt like there was gonna be an opportunity for me to play, so I just got the itch to do it. I had fun doing it. God, I've been doing it since I've been gone [from the band the first time]."

Q: Was that an issue with the other guys?

Joey Belladonna: "No, I don't think so. And if it was, I'm sorry about that, but that's…"

Q: [interrupting] But they never raised that with you, as far as doing solo gigs while you were a member of ANTHRAX?

Joey Belladonna: "No. I mean, c'mon. I don't tell people that they can't do clinics, I don't tell people that they can't do radio shows or TV shows… I mean, nobody's telling anybody what to do there… I mean, that's not an issue."

Q: So if it were up to you right now, you would be doing a new ANTHRAX record with these guys and you would try and make it work?

Joey Belladonna: "If everything was kosher in all aspects? If everything was lined up, you're saying?"

Q: Yes.

Joey Belladonna: "Well, yeah, I would think so."

Q: When you say "if everything was lined up," is there anything in particular you are referring to?

Joey Belladonna: "You've gotta have everything in a row. If somebody says you're gonna go somewhere and do something, you've gotta know what you're doing. You've gotta know and you wanna know for sure what's going on. Like they said, they wanted to go in steps, [and] the steps have to be right. Again, it's not my band, I don't really call the shots. So I can't begin to dictate what's gonna happen. And in order for you to dictate what's going on, you have to listen and you have to understand what's going on to decide what you're gonna do. I think after the third time you deserve all the right to figure those things out. I don't know about you, if you do things, if you just go there and just show up and assume."

Q: No, but the reason I think this is kind of confusing is basically you guys had a certain way of working back in the late '80s, early '90s, and then 13 years later, you guys came back together and I'm assuming that the way that these guys went about certain things pretty much has stayed the same — people don't really change all that much once they're kind of set in their ways. So I'm assuming that everybody kind of knew what they were getting into and that once you got back together, you would sort of pick up where you left off.

Joey Belladonna: "I think we did in some portions, but I think when people move on, they get older, they grow wiser and smarter and they have different ways. I mean, [I don't think] anybody is doing things exactly the same. 'Cause they've had another band, too. I'm sure they ran their other thing a little bit different. They probably had different scenarios per person."

Q: Yeah, it was a different dynamic, different person involved.

Joey Belladonna: "There's no way to be… It's not gonna be the same. If anything, everybody's gonna be a little more cautious of how they run… Hell, if you wanna watch the DVD [that was released of the reunion], you'll see that everybody's like, 'Well, we'll see what happens. We don't know. I wanna make sure… this and that.' If you watch it closely, you'll see that some people are a little hesistant at first."

Q: Were there any demands that you made in terms of what you needed in order to proceed that these guys would not satisfy that you think might have led to them calling this thing off?

Joey Belladonna: "I don't make any demands. I'm not into that. I'm not sitting around dictating anything."

Q: So you cannot think of anything — anything that you might have done that might have caused these guys to basically assume that you did not want to move forward?

Joey Belladonna: "I'm sure if it isn't in their favor, they're gonna move. And I don't really care to figure that out."

Q: Was it a financial issue?

Joey Belladonna: "No. Financial? I mean, c'mon. People, when they go 'financial,' just think for a minute. Read about this huge tour that I'm supposed to be doing. Wouldn't anybody just get in and go for that? I mean, that's a good sign of not about financial [issues], that's for damn sure. It's nothing to do with that. And I don't even know what that is and if that was even really, quote, positively true, or if it was… See, I don't know that stuff. So, no, it's not financial. It's just everything. You just need to know what you're doing. I mean, you need to be in control… to be in control of what you're doing."

Q: You mentioned Danny's name earlier? Have you spoken to him at all?

Joey Belladonna: "I've talked to him before, yeah…"

Q: But I mean in the last week or so since this news first broke?

Joey Belladonna: "Yeah, he called me. He was surprised. He found out through the Internet, somebody said that it was over. 'Surprise, surprise,' I said to him. And then we just started talking about other things. What do you do? You just sit there and go, 'Wow. That was interesting.'"

Q: Both of you guys [you and Danny] found out through the Internet [that the reunion was over]? When Scott put out a statement, that was the first you guys heard of this?

Joey Belladonna: "Yeah, I had a friend of mine call me. He said, 'Did you read that thing on Blabbermouth? Scott said it's over.' I was like, 'Wow! Really? Where'd you see that?' And of course, I'm not online that much — I don't really go on the computer at all."

Q: So that was the first you heard of you no longer being part of this?

Joey Belladonna: "Yeah. I mean, officially — right out, straight out…"

Q: And Danny expressed to you that he was equally surprised [to hear about this]?

Joey Belladonna: "He just… I guess he was saying he would have liked to… I don't really wanna speak for him. He just happened to call and said, 'I see something online. What's going on?' I said, 'I don't know, man. Maybe we oughta find out.' [Laughs]"

Q: This all seems very, very strange.

Joey Belladonna: "Yes, it's a very strange thing. It'll always be a strange thing. It's hard enough. It's gonna remain confusing. I mean, if you wanna go way back, it's still confusing. I still, to this day, don't even know why we even had to come to this yet. We could have been… Of course, everybody's like, 'Well, we've gotta move on. Do something new. Get a new singer. Let's be different. Let's try something current.' Obviously when I got back in there, things were pretty decent. I mean, it's like you said, it's as if it wasn't any different, it was just as good as it was long ago, and here we are, and you really have to have that middle piece that took place that changed everything that we used to do — everything. Nothing against what they did — great, you tried it — but you know, man, hey, we had something that was really pretty good. But I guess that's part of being in a group that likes to experiment."

Q: I just think it's very odd. I think a lot of people were looking forward to at least seeing this lineup record a new album.

Joey Belladonna: "But that's tough to hang that over my head or anybody's head."

Q: Well, they're kind of making it appear as if you made that decision.

Joey Belladonna: "I don't think we officially made any decision. I mean, I couldn't tell you if we got four songs in that they were like, 'Well, we were really hoping for you to do something a little different, so I don't think this is gonna work. Thank you very much.' You don't know that. We don't know that. It's not like… If I'm doing my own thing, I know what's gonna happen and I'm gonna work it to the end, but I mean, I'm in their band and if, for some reason, they don't like what I'm doing, or something stupid, or if the tunes aren't coming together the way they wanted, you don't know anything. So there was no official… They don't even have any songs themselves that much yet to know what they're looking at yet. I mean, of course, I'm sure they have high hopes in everything they do, but you're never gonna figure that out."

Q: So you guys never got together or spoke, once they had some songs written, about actually starting to work on some stuff?

Joey Belladonna: "Charlie, when I spoke to him, he said he had some songs, but I haven't heard 'em. I couldn't tell you what they're all about. I couldn't tell you what direction it's at."

Q: It's not clear that John Bush is gonna come back, and there is speculation that he may not want to…

Joey Belladonna: "That's what I hear, but even then, it's like, you've still got that hanging over your head. That gets boring after a while. I mean, it's like, 'Who cares?' It's great that he's in the wings. It's like we're both being back-up quarterbacks, and it's bullshit."

Q: Well, that's kind of why I wanted to get to the bottom of this. 'Cause it seems to me almost like there's two singers involved and now neither one is actually gonna front the band.

Joey Belladonna: "Well, maybe that could give you an idea that there's a little bit different ends that are going on that somebody can't enter anyhow. If you think of… even with those guys, how confusing is it that all of a sudden there was a reunion thing, whether we know for a fact that they wanted to do it for real and all the way, or was it a part-time thing, was somebody gonna come back in? We don't know that — we'll never that until somebody tells you the full story of why they went and did it. Maybe it is only because of a reunion. Or is it because of this? 'And we weren't really gonna do it this way and when we got done with that…' I wouldn't even know what they're gonna do. It's tough. It's a tough situation. All I know is that I did more than we thought we were gonna do, and I think we really were really successful enough to at least say we didn't do one month and go, 'Hey, man, it was really cool to get back together. Man, those shows were great,' and that's it. We did a hell of a lot more than that. That's one thing I say that was really positive that I dug — we played well and we had a really good run. If I was to take anything out of it, I think that was good."

Q: Do you think their intentions were pure when they decided to get back together with you?

Joey Belladonna: "I would think so. I mean, I think there was the 20-year anniversary, there was this, there was that. I'm not even gonna speculate on all kinds of possibilities why. I'd always say 'Why not?' too. I'd say, 'Maybe there'll be a day, maybe. How cool would that be?' And that's what we did."

Q: Did you guys get along on the road? Were there a lot of fights?

Joey Belladonna: "No, no. We really didn't have that much stuff. It was pretty similar to long ago. Everybody's individual, everybody's different, everybody's grown up and moved into different friends and activities and habits, and this and that. It's a business, man. That's what it is."

Q: You are now doing a few solo shows.

Joey Belladonna: "Yeah, like 10. I guess, like 10 or so."

Q: Someone told me that you are actually playing drums [as well as singing]?

Joey Belladonna: "No, I'm actually [just] singing. It's a four-piece band."

Q: Is this a brand new lineup?

Joey Belladonna: "Brand new. I was literally doing it in the last month or so."

Q: And you're playing mostly ANTHRAX stuff?

Joey Belladonna: "No. In fact, the other night I did mostly all originals and one ANTHRAX [song], but I do a lot of ANTHRAX stuff anyhow, but I just never got around to it the other night, 'cause the set was shorter 'cause it was a support slot with OVERKILL and METAL CHURCH and MELIAH RAGE there, so we just kind of went in and slammed out mostly originals and one ANTHRAX [song]."

Q: So are you comfortable with what you're doing now? Is that what you plan on doing for the foreseeable future or do you have any other plans?

Joey Belladonna: "At this point, it's so early on, [but] I guess since one door shuts, you kind of roll through it and get into a new thing and you take that on. I dig doing it [the solo thing]. I have plenty of songs that are really comfortable to sing and I like the direction that I've had put together. As far as other projects, I get occasional e-mails here and there like I've always gotten and we talk about all kinds of things, but a lot of it's a difficult situation 'cause you've gotta plan and find out what people are really up to. Are they really into playing or…? But I mean, I like doing one thing, if I can do it… ANTHRAX, when I did that, I was doing that — I wasn't off doing seminars and voiceovers and this crap, all this kind of stuff — it was ANTHRAX all the way. Now that I'm not doing that, I guess I'm doing this all the way. It takes enough time for me to do this 'cause I'm doing a lot of it myself."

La réponse :

ANTHRAX members Scott Ian (guitar) and Charlie Benante (drums) took part in an online chat with the members of the band's official fan club, CDC, on Wednesday, January 31. The primary topic of discussion was the group's most recent split with singer Joey Belladonna and the band's future plans, which may or may not include a reunion with ANTHRAX's former vocalist John Bush. An excerpt from the chat follows (edited by BLABBERMOUTH.NET for clarity):

Charlie: I had this idea to do a special anniversary tour, [featuring both] John [Bush] and Joey [Belladonna]. I thought it would be an amazing thing for everyone to see.

Scott: I concur.

Charlie: John decided that he didn't want to be a part of it.

Scott: Understandable.

Charlie: He felt he would be overshadowed by Joey coming back.

Scott: He felt he didn't need to take a backseat to the reunion-with-Joey excitement.

Charlie: We all understood. Well, now with John not into it, we all felt that we could go and do some shows.

Scott: SABBATH. Oops, you're still back 20 months ago.

Charlie: I knew this was going to be hard for John, and believe me, it was hard for us as well. WE LOVE JOHN.

Scott: His life was already changing with the birth of [his daughter] Jezebel.

Charlie: John has always been one of us, from day one. Maybe Scott can continue.

Scott: Once we left to do the reunion, we were on a different path. No matter how hard we tried to keep him [John] in the mix, it was strange. Like cheating on your wife.

Charlie: It was really hard seeing these reunion bashers and all. I tried staying in touch with John, but I could tell he was hurt and didn't want any part of it.

Scott: Once things started to happen for us on the tour, it became apparent that people were excited, business was good, etc.

Charlie: But I always knew in my mind that some day we would get back and do another record.

Scott: The touring got this band out of a huge financial hole. John included.

Charlie: I remember reading the thing that Rob Caggiano [former ANTHRAX guitarist] said about us [on the Anthrax Reunion Bashing Club web site] that really gutted me.

Scott: We were working and he was home and we took care of all his debt as well. Rob knew where we were business-wise, and he took a cheap shot. It's water under the bridge now.

Charlie: For the most part, the reunion tour was good. There were ups and downs, but we would see the excitement on the faces and it kinda got good to us as well.

Scott: Anyway, the tour worked on many different levels. I really believe we became a great band again. Granted, we were only playing the old stuff, but it really gelled. At some point, we all decided to go forward with Joey. Why not? It seemed like the right thing to do.

Charlie: Now here's where it's going to get weird.

Scott: After the [ROB] ZOMBIE tour, I believe we had the first conversations with him about making a [new] record. Even though during that tour Joey was already acting like he didn't want to be there. He didn't want to go to Japan and I had to talk him into it.

Charlie: Joey is a very nice person, but he has demons, as we all do in some way or another.

Scott: I don't know why he changed so drastically. I thought moving forward and making a record was all he wanted to do, but once we started trying to communicate with him, it all fell apart.

Charlie: I spent hours on the phone with him. When it got to hour three, I wanted to jump into the phone and strangle him.

Scott: Long story short, we were offered the SABBATH (with Dio) [HEAVEN AND HELL] dates back in December. We were so excited. We figured this would really make Joey happy because he loves Dio. Go ahead, Charlie.

Charlie: But Joey felt he couldn't continue unless he had some info.

Scott: We couldn't believe he wouldn't do the SABBATH dates.

Charlie: It all comes down to dollars and cents with him. THAT'S THE FUCKING TRUTH.

Scott: And he was and would've gotten an equal piece of everything.

Charlie: EVERYTHING. I hate when I read that Scott and Charlie did this or Scott and Charlie did that. Fucking bullshit.

Scott: He thinks he has been cheated even after his own business manager told him that everything was right with the books.

Charlie: Children can't run things, it takes leaders.

Scott: After hearing that 10 times, I took it as a personal offense. I tried to talk to him and he wouldn't answer my attempts.

Charlie: I told him that he'd be letting down a lot of people... didn't make a difference.

Scott: You don't accuse someone of stealing and then disappear.

Charlie: This is the truth.

Scott: We tried. We bent over backwards and all we got was a bunch of vague, nonsensical answers.

Charlie: Like that interview he did that appeared on Blabbermouth. I don't want to slag him, I don't want to start that. I guess I'm just really disappointed in him.

Scott: It's a simple question: do you want to make a record? Yes or no? All we got back was that he felt cheated. After we were offered the SABBATH thing again a few weeks ago, we tried one more time. He still wouldn't talk to us. That was it. I wished him luck in life and told him I hope he realizes what he's giving up.

Charlie: Joey has a good heart. I think his issues just get in the way of his decisions.

Scott: Joey is 45 years old. Grow up and be a man. Take responsibility for your life.

Scott: It's sad that it ended the way it did, but it was out of our hands. End of story.

Charlie: Basically.

Scott: Moving forward...

Charlie: Exactly. We're not fighting. We're going to start writing a record.

Scott: No, Joey disagreed. That's it, no more Joey questions. Go tell Joey at his solo dates.

Charlie: This record could be an ANTHRAX record or it could be something else.

[Everflow]

Pendant ce temps, John Bush n'a pas l'intention de revenir dans Anthrax... et on le comprend.

Shockwaves: A lot of people are wondering, everyone wants to know your side... What is the situation with ANTHRAX right now — with you and ANTHRAX?

John Bush: The situation is, ironically enough, I'm actually still a member of the band legally, although I haven't really made any decisions relating to the band in the last couple of years. But on a legal level, I'm still a member of the band. It was March of 2005, I guess… That was the last tour I did with the band, which was that South American thing that we did, which was awesome, and that was it. So I, mean, a bunch of stuff has gone on — and we don't wanna get into that — but the bottom line is that we're here now almost two years after that, and there's been talk about doing some writing, and I'm just not ready to do that with ANTHRAX yet. Ever? I don't know. I live my life kind of like that anyway. [adopting a David Lee Roth singing voice] "I live my life like there's no tomorrow…" Anyway, I do really like to live my life that way, and so I can't really speak for the future too much as much as I can speak for the present, and the present, right now, it's just not where I'm at mentally. I've kind of got other things going on in my life that are really my priorities and therefore to get into a situation of just writing, I think, is a commitment, and as little of a commitment as it may be perceived as, it's still a commitment. So for me to go, "Yeah, I'll do some writing," to me that kind of says, well, I'm not just doing some writing — "Hey, we'll write a couple of songs, and hey, maybe we'll do something with it." I know the bigger picture, and the bigger picture is if you're writing songs, it's commitment, and I don't wanna give them any false sense of commitment that I'm not willing to follow through on. And so that's why I've declined that. And that's about as far as I've taken it. I don't know what they're gonna do other than that — I think that's kind of in their world — but as far as me writing with the band, as of January 23, 2007, I'm not ready to do that.

[Mc Brain]

Si Bush ne revient jamais (on peut espérer qu'avec un peu de temps et des excuses publiques...), on pourra dire que Antharx aura commis une sorte de suicide avec l'épisode Belladonna. Du gâchis quoi!

[Talasquin]

Ce qui est malheureux c'est pour les fans d'Anthrax. J'espère qu'une majorité d'entre eux aura eu l'occasion de les voir sur scène une ou plusieurs fois avec son chanteur favori, parce que là, rideau.

J'ai jamais accroché à la musique de ce groupe mais je l'ai toujours respecté. La lecture des interviews renvoyait l'image d'un groupe honnête, avec des musiciens sincères et pas atteints de grosse tête. Pareil pour les reports de concerts, on sentait un groupe qui donnait à ses fans et se faisait plaisir.

Jusqu'à cette "reformation". Benante et Ian entraient dans le rang de ceux qui ont descendu leurs anciens collègues (surtout Spitz) dans la presse, et faisaient semblant d'être tout heureux de les retrouver plus tard.

Maintenant ça ne m'inspire qu'une seule réaction, c'est bien fait pour leur gueule.

Bush me laisse l'impression d'être le gars honnête et droit auquel j'ai toujours pensé et j'espère bien qu'il ne compromettra pas sa crédibilité en revenant dans ce "groupe". Puis c'est un excellent chanteur, il a déjà Armored Saint et de toute façon, je doute qu'il manque de proposition pour rebondir ailleurs s'il le souhaite.

Encore une fois c'est malheureux pour tous ceux qui aiment ce groupe mais je pense sincèrement qu'ils feraient mieux d'arrêter les frais tout de suite.

[NicoGan]

Ce qui est malheureux c'est pour les fans d'Anthrax. J'espère qu'une majorité d'entre eux aura eu l'occasion de les voir sur scène une ou plusieurs fois avec son chanteur favori, parce que là, rideau.

J'ai jamais accroché à la musique de ce groupe mais je l'ai toujours respecté. La lecture des interviews renvoyait l'image d'un groupe honnête, avec des musiciens sincères et pas atteints de grosse tête. Pareil pour les reports de concerts, on sentait un groupe qui donnait à ses fans et se faisait plaisir.

Jusqu'à cette "reformation". Benante et Ian entraient dans le rang de ceux qui ont descendu leurs anciens collègues (surtout Spitz) dans la presse, et faisaient semblant d'être tout heureux de les retrouver plus tard.

Maintenant ça ne m'inspire qu'une seule réaction, c'est bien fait pour leur gueule.

Bush me laisse l'impression d'être le gars honnête et droit auquel j'ai toujours pensé et j'espère bien qu'il ne compromettra pas sa crédibilité en revenant dans ce "groupe". Puis c'est un excellent chanteur, il a déjà Armored Saint et de toute façon, je doute qu'il manque de proposition pour rebondir ailleurs s'il le souhaite.

Encore une fois c'est malheureux pour tous ceux qui aiment ce groupe mais je pense sincèrement qu'ils feraient mieux d'arrêter les frais tout de suite.

Je plussoie à 100% ... et moi je les ai vu

Sans rire ça me fait bien chier mais vaudrait mieux arrêter les frais tout de suite.

[Gandalf]

ANTHRAX guitarist Scott Ian has issued the following update:

"I've been in the studio recording and mixing Pearl's [Aday; Ian's fiancée and daughter of legendary crooner Meat Loaf] album with Joe Barresi. He's halfway through the mix. Should be done late next week. Sounds so fucking great.

"Working on ANTHRAX, working on Retox [the New York City club which was opened by Ian and club owner Mike Diamond, who started Snitch, Pangaea and Vela], boxing, etc. etc.

"Can't wait to get to Chicago in two weeks. More new ANTHRAX songs. Singer announcement end of next month. It will be in our fanclub (the CDC) first. Great chat there yesterday. It's cool to talk to people directly.

"'Lost' finale ruled.

"Coen Bros. movie 'No Country For Old Men' looks amazing. Great book.

"Got my Angus SG. So killer!

"I'll be at Retox again June 14."

ANTHRAX announced its split with vocalist Joey Belladonna in January less than two years after the group's classic lineup reunited for a "25th anniversary" tour.

[guardianofsteel]

Belladonna s'est à nouveau fait évincé de Anthrax apparemment

[kingdavid of steel]

c'est ridicule !!!
qu'ils splittent se sera la meilleure chose a faire.

[Haraban]

A quoi rime tout ça?

[olivier64]

vu sur VS

"C'est au final Whitfield Crane (ex-UGLY KID JOE, MEDICATION) qui accompagnera le groupe sur scène pour les dates de la tournée Sonsiphere... "

ça serait pas un petit poisson ? Si oui, pas sympa pour Belladonna...

[Globox666]

c'est clairement un poisson !

avec les Sonisphere, ils peuvent pas se permettre de virer Beladonna avant (enfin j'imagine, moi ça me dérangerait pas).

[MDT]

Si VS fait un poisson d'avril ce sera soit sur Dimmu Borgir, soit sur Aerosmith, soit sur Anthrax, donc ça cadre bien .

[kingdavid of steel]

ça fait combien d'annees qu'il nous le font se poisson d'avril anthrax ??

[guardianofsteel]

Ah ouais j'avais oublié qu'on était le premier! Haha! Bon ben autant pour moi

[Mout Mout]

En même temps ce serait bénéfique pour Anthrax !

[mike-polar]

une critique du nouvel album par les mecs de Metalsucks qui ont la chance de l'entendre

So I have a friend who works closely with Camp Anthrax. I obviously can’t tell you the friend’s name, but I can tell you that he once told me that the Dan Nelson version of Worship Music was awesome, and that I’ve been begging him to let me hear it ever since. Thing is, he doesn’t actually own a copy, and has never been able to get his hands on one. Security around the album was tight before the Nelson debacle, but after, he told me, “It was like Scott and Charlie were going door-to-door personally checking people’s hard drives to make sure everyone had deleted it.”

And so last night I got a text from this friend, I guess trying to make amends for the fact that he never did come through with that Dan Nelson record: “Just got the Belladonna version of Worship Music. U wanna hear it?”

I responded simply, “Be there in 20.” And I got my ass on the subway and I went over to his place.

And I gotta tell you, guys… it’s a weird record, and there are two MASSIVE, and massively tragic, missteps… but it’s pretty great overrall. It’s not really like any metal record I’ve ever heard before. Whatever else you wanna say about Anthrax, you can’t accuse them of refusing to experiment — this album is a huge, huge risk, often welding together vastly different styles and textures of not just metal but often other genres of music, too. I don’t know if people will go for this record or not, but I think it’s kinda brilliant.

(By the way, the above album cover is a carry-over from the Dan Nelson version of the record; apparently it may be scrapped in favor of something that “feels more like the album cover of one of the old Belladonna albums.” Which would be a weird decision, because, a few songs aside, this record doesn’t sound anything like any other Anthrax album.)

And so here it is — my track-by-track breakdown of what I heard.

You guys aren’t gonna believe this shit.


“Intro” — It’s like some white noise with buzzsaw guitars and then a high-pitched Belladonna scream rises up from the background. Honestly, it kinda reminded me of the beginning of Warrant’s Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking Rich. Then it segues right into –

“Fight ‘Em ‘Til You Can’t” – You’ve heard the live version of the song, so you know what you’re in for here — this is just a more polished studio version. What’s kind of amazing is that the production sounds almost EXACTLY like the Anthrax records of yore — particularly Persistence of Time. I don’t know if Belladonna’s been fixed in post or what, but it sounds like he recorded “In My World” yesterday. Even if I prefer Bush-era ‘Thrax, it’s hard for me to argue that this is a weak start. No surprises, I’m told this is expected to be the first single.

“Vampyres” — If “Fight ‘Em” sounds JUST like classic Belladonna-era stuff, then this sounds EXACTLY like old Bush stuff. Belladonna’s vocals, consequently, do feel a little out of place, but they make it work way better than I thought they would. Rob Caggiano’s solo on this song is KILLER, by the way — far and away his best work.

“We Die Young” — This is the first of those two missteps I was talking about. I mean, seriously? They put a cover third? Boy, they sure are proud of the new music they’ve made. By the way, Joey’s voice is really way wrong for this song. Also, no one in Anthrax is young, so I don’t know who the fuck they mean when they say “we.” I guess “We Die Middle Aged” doesn’t have the same ring to it.

“Revolution Screams” – Is like a Sound of White Noise/Spreading the Disease hybrid; the verse is a groove-metal kinda thing John Bush might have sung, and the chorus is fast n’ thrashy and perfect for Belladonna. It feels like the band trying to please everybody, and it doesn’t quite work– I think it ultimately feels like too much of it was pasted together, as though making a Frankenstein’s Monster of a song — although each section, taken on its own, is really quite good.

“Earth on Hell” — Okay, so this is when the album starts to get weird. This tune has lots of bizarre sound effects, but the riff sounds like it could be on State of Euphoria. The closest pre-existing Anthrax song I can think to compare it to is “Random Acts of Senseless Violence,” but it’s thrashier than that. The note I have written down is “Beck re-mixes ‘Be All, End All’.” I still think that’s an apt description.

“Down Goes the Sun” – If Crowbar wrote a power ballad, it would be “Down Goes the Sun.” Imagine Black Label Society’s “In This River,” but with banjo instead of piano, and it gets way heavy after the first verse, and, oh yeah, the vocals are by a whole choir of Belladonnas. Seriously — the vocals are like something off a Queen album. Totally bizarre.

“The Devil You Know” – Is a The Damned Things song with Belladonna vocals. That’s the only way I can describe it. It doesn’t even sound like Anthrax. There’s enough cowbell to outfit an entire herd. That being said… it rocks. It’s cheesy as hell, but it’s twice as good as anything Velvet Revolver or Buckcherry every wrote.

“The Giant” — IS A DUET WITH SEBASTIAN BACH, Scott Ian’s old Damnocracy bandmate. I nearly shit when my friend told me, but as soon as the vocals kicked, The crazier thing is, this was by far my favorite song on the album. If “Fight ‘Em” sounds like old Belladonna shit, and “Vampyres” sounds like old Bush shit, then this sounds like way, way, way old Turbin shit. It’s like one glass-shattering vocal away from being a Judas Priest song.

“Little Boy from Long Island” — A nine minute epic with acoustic guitars, a full orchestra (and it’s apparently not synths), steel drums, harmonized vocals by Belladonna, Scott Ian’s wife Pearl Aday, and her father/Ian’s father-in-law, Meatloaf, and also crazy section full of blast beats and guest vocals from Frank Mullen. This has to be the craziest Anthrax song I’ve ever heard. It also attacks Dan Nelson with staggering specificity: “Good luck workin’ with Bostaph, Little Boy from Long Island.”

“Bring the 21st Century Noize” – HOLY SHIT, CAN YOU BELIEVE THEY’RE CALLING A SONG THAT? Worse still is that the thing is six minutes long — almost twice the length of the original — and is now overflowing with guest rappers. Yes, I said guest rappers. Not only is Chuck D. back, but now there are extra parts for Ice Cube, Fred Durst (!), and B.o.B., and then there’s like a weird breakdown-thing with vocoder vocals by T-Pain. Not only can I still not believe that this song exists, I can’t believe they closed the album with this. The upside, I guess, is that you can turn the album off before this ever plays.

It’s so bad and so silly it almost derails the whole thing — but everything up to this point, save the Alice in Chains cover, has been so interesting it almost doesn’t matter. The eight songs on this album that work REALLY work. For all the shit I’ve given the band up recently, they really, really did something fascinating here, and re-defined Anthrax for the 21st century in a big, big way. I’m told the record is gonna get an official release date for the fall any second now; I don’t know why the band is waiting so long. I can’t wait for you guys to hear it.

enfin la pochette
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[Pierre]

Dan Nelson s'exprime, ou plutôt s'est exprimé


Dan Nelson, qui a été le chanteur d’ANTHRAX de 2007 à 2009 et qui avait travaillé avec le groupe sur son nouvel album Worship Music, qui sortira finalement avec Joey Belladonna, vocaliste historique de la formation, s’est exprimé sur sa page facebook. INFORMATION DE DERNIER MINUTE : Peu après la publication de ce statut, Nelson a supprimé son compte facebook.

« Je viens juste de réécouter Worship Music avec mes parties de chant. Je comprends parfaitement l’opportunité de cash que génère le Big 4, mais j’espère que les fans pourront entendre cette version de l’album. ILS LE MERITENT AMPLEMENT. Je précise que ce n’est pas une attaque contre Joey. Il va chanter comme un tueur. Il l’a toujours fait.[...] Je ne partagerai pas ces enregistrements avec qui que ce soit, par respect pour le groupe. Je respecte toujours le groupe, leurs familles et ce qu’ils ont accompli. Pas d’attaque personnelle de ma part. C’est triste que je les respecte encore, mais c’est comme ça que j’ai été élevé. Merci Maman, merci Papa. Josh Bush aussi, est quelqu’un de grande classe. Respect à John.[...] Joey grand chanteur. Mérite soutien. Il travaille dûr dans cet univers. Respect.

Ouais, ça sortira un jour. Mais d’ici là, je serai avec mon UNIQUE FAMILLE et je m’en ficherai. Mais SACHEZ que j’ai beaucoup travaillé et ait cru en le groupe et en les fans.

Ce sont deux années de ma vie (oui je sais, bande de connards de trolls, ce n’est pas assez), que je ne retrouverai jamais. Deux années que j’ai passées à dormir, à saigner et à chier (pas sur Bello) pour eux [Nelson fait référence à une fausse rumeur selon laquelle il aurait été renvoyé d'ANTHRAX pour avoir jeté des déchets sur le bassiste Frank Bello alors qu'il dormait]. »

[Tony Le Pouilleux]

Il est quand même resté pro.