Queensrÿche : Mindcrime II

[Bib]

Dernier message de la page précédente :

En effet, c'est un mot douteux !!
Mais bon, je pense que la seule chose à faire est d'attendre d'entendre des extraits pour se faire une idée...

[Everflow]

Le producteur de Mindcrime II parle de l'album, et n'a pas peur de dire clairement que les albums précédent étaient mauvais Il parle aussi de la performance de Tate et du non-rôle de DeGarmo...

http://www.breakdownroom.net/slater-article.html

Et ça confirme que musicalement faut surtout pas s'attendre à la même chose. Normal pour QR.

[Everflow]

Et pendant ce temps Tate affirme que DeGarmo ne reviendra pas :

Geoff Tate: "Well, that door is officially closed on Mr. DeGarmo now. It's nothing bad, or evil intent here. We had our kind of reunion working together on the last 'Tribe' album, and it didn't work out. It wasn't a joyous celebration of our union as partners and writers and all that. We felt that the time in our history, it was, has been, and now it's closed and we're moving on to a different generation...."

[Everflow]

Plein de détails intéressants sur Mindcrime II, révélés par Tate :

On the upcoming album's musical direction:

"Musically, I think it's going to be light years away from the original," Tate said, although he said they have included bits of melodies from the first one as touchpoints. He called the music "very aggressive and at times very violent, other times very introspective and moody."

"'Mindcrime' musically was one-dimensional; all the music was very same-y. It was exploring frustration. In a nutshell, [this] album's about revenge and how that emotion or that motivation can really consume you as a person."

On the story of "Mindcrime II":

"It takes place 18 years later; it picks up in what's happening in Nikki's life at that point and takes you from there.

"He's been in prison for so long without drugs and things to prop him up, and he's started to get a clearer picture of his reality and becoming aware of what he's done in his life and feeling in an awful place.

"Although he's guilty of many, many murders, on the other hand, it wasn't like he meant to do it or wanted to do it — he couldn't stop himself. So it puts you in a weird place — where do you draw the line here, what's the law, does the law apply to this, is it really fair."

Tate says the album, which will probably be a double disc, will be complete by September as planned, but probably won't be released until January. He knows the sequel and the original will be inextricably linked, but thinks they'll be able to stand on their own.

"Musically [they will be independent]," he said. "Storywise, I think you'll be able to pick it up and listen to it and understand what's going on without listening to the first one."

[KYLEN]

[Everflow]

Encore une interview de Tate sur Mindcrime II, avec de nouveaux détails sur l'histoire :

For a long time fans said ‘do an Operation: Mindcrime II’, but you said ‘no – we’re not going to do that’. Why have you decided to do it and where do you find the inspiration to do it?

Tate: “I really hadn’t thought seriously about doing it until I got asked about a year ago to write a treatment for a screenplay for the Mindcrime album. In doing so, I found all this information that you have to come up with when writing a screenplay which you don’t need to include when you’re doing a musical record – back story, character development and all that. As I was writing it out and getting more detail, I found that I had so much material that a sequel was obvious. The more I worked on it – the more interested I became and then I mentioned it to the band and they seemed to like the idea. We found it challenging to take the theme ideas and move them into the 21st century with new production ideas and a more mature approach to the music. So, everybody got on the same page and when you can get everybody from a band on the same page when you’re writing a record it’s a miraculous thing. So, you run with it.”

Is there an Operation: Mindcrime movie? When is that coming out?

Tate: “It’s not even in production yet. We’re still writing the screenplay for it.”

Film cinema or film TV?

Tate: “Film cinema.”

Do you plan to star in it?

Tate: “Ah, no.”

You’ve mentioned in the past that Operation: Mindcrime was inspired by people in the Saint-Sulpice bar in Montreal – are you taking the same characters and just re-visiting them twenty years later?

Tate: “My thought process is this – at the end of the first album Nikki is imprisoned. So, my thought was – what would I be like after 18 years in prison. What would I think about? What would I plan on doing? My thought was that I’d analyze everything in my life. Where did I take a wrong turn and who is responsible for me being in the situation I’m in. So, I’d come up with a plan of attack of what I’d do – when and if I got out. So, the album takes place 18 years after the original and some of the same characters re-visit. Pamela Moore plays Sister Mary back from the dead acting as Nikki’s conscience. We have a male lead singer who is going to be singing the part of Dr.X. Nikki and Dr.X kind of do an opera presentation (aria) back and forth. It’s pretty dramatic. We have an orchestra being recorded in Prague. There’s 74 minutes of music. It’s a big big record.”

What’s the musical direction? Full metal... sort of metal...orchestral?

Tate: “I hate to put boundaries on it. You know metal is a genre that can be defined in a number of ways and I’m not so much interested in other people’s definition of metal as I am in my own. I don’t mean to sound arrogant, but I figure a band like Queensryche has been around 25 years - we define what metal is. So, there’s songs on it that people are going to find to be very traditional Queensryche songs from different eras of our past and there are songs on it that are very new sounding. There’s very aggressive songs, there’s moody introspective stuff...”

Not a carbon-copy of Mindcrime at all then...

Tate: “Not even close. It’s light years away from Mindcrime. Mindcrime was a one-dimensional record musically. We broke out a little bit of the metal with Suite Sister Mary, but it was still a metal record. Well, this is that and more. We really tried to explore the different emotions the characters were going through, so it’s very story driven. There’s light moments followed by really bombastic moments. It’s kind of like life. You’re not on ‘ten’ all day long. Lots of peaks and valleys it’s like the Himalayas man.”

Is Operation: Mindcrime II the period (to the story) or is the ending open ended?

Tate: “You’ll have to wait and see.”

Now, personally – you did a solo album and talked about doing a second one. Where are we with that?

Tate: “We are with an album that is pretty much finished and awaiting release.”

The next album for you – same as the first with loops and rhythms almost dance beats in parts? Are you going out on a ledge again or more towards Queensryche?

Tate: “I can’t really say yet. I’ve got 27 songs and probably 11 or 12 will make it on to the CD. So, I can’t say ‘what’ is it yet, but it’s a lot of different stuff. Stuff that I’m interested in, but Queensryche couldn’t tackle. Things that are too left of center for Queensryche.”

Album title? Release date? Before or after Mindcrime II?

Tate: “No, No and after Mindcrime II.”

Will you tour solo?

Tate: “Yes.”

Where do you go after the Priest tour?

Tate: “I go home to spend time with my kids. We’re going to do some sailing, camping and motorcycling. Got two BIG weddings this summer in our family and the band is playing a date at Sturgis – the big bike festival in August. Then we have the rest of August off – we’ll finish the record and in September we’ll go out and do some Mindcrime dates (the show we did last year).”

Will you have to listen to Mindcrime II from song one to the end? Is it thematic in that sense?

Tate: “I think so. It has a chronological order to it.”

[KYLEN]

on peut telecharger 2 extraits du mindcrime II sur le site officiel

[True Belief]

Arf ! I'm American & Hostage sont 2 bootleg, dispos depuis des lustres.
Malgré un son mediocre (normal pour un bootleg) on peut déjà discerner une chose : c'est pas terrible les nouvelles compos !!!!! (surtout pour du mindcrime 2)

[Mout Mout]

Ca risque de faire comme Abigail II....ca sera pas mal mais ca sera pas non plus l'original .
Mais bon après faut voir , je trouvais pas mal les albums Hear in the Now Frontier et Tribe alors on ne sait jamais , sur un coup de génie.....

[Everflow]

Une rumeur circule sur le net comme quoi c'est Halford qui tiendra le rôle de Dr X sur cette suite...

Lu sur leur site officiel :

The band is confirming the singer who plays Dr. X by the end of next week . I think you'll be surprised, he is VERY well known and respected.

[Everflow]

La tracklist :

01. I'm American
02. One Foot In Hell
03. Hostage
04. The Hands
05. Speed Of Light
06. Signs Say Go (Will I Surrender?)
07. Re-Arrange You
08. The Chase
09. A Murderer
10. Circles
11. If I Could Change It All
12. An Intentional Confrontation
13. A Junkie's Blues (Everything Will Be Alright)
14. Fear City Slide
15. All The Promises

L'histoire :

"Operation: Mindcrime"'s intriguing and complex plot revolves around Dr. X, a political puppet master who brainwashes Nikki, the story's main character, to assassinate corrupt public figures. The story also includes Nikki's lover, Sister Mary. A former teenage prostitute who becomes a nun, Sister Mary is murdered mysteriously, leaving the cliffhanger "Who Killed Sister Mary?"

Set 20 years after the original, "Operation: Mindcrime II" explores Nikki's fate after being released from prison and reveals the identity of Mary's killer. "I tried to put myself in Nikki's shoes and imagine what it would be like for him to come back to society after spending 20 years in jail stewing about what happened to him," Tate says. "I became fascinated with the concept of revenge and what that would do to a person like Nikki. The story is ultimately about how Nikki wrestles with his conflicted emotions. On one side, his base instincts are pushing him to kill those who wronged him. On the other side, his conscience–represented by the spirit of Sister Mary — urges him to learn from his past mistakes and find salvation."

[CARPE DIEM]

enfin un nouvel album du Reich miiiiaaaaam !!!

[Talasquin]

Les dates de sortie de Mindcrime II

U.S.: March 14, 2006
Japan: March 22, 2006
Germany: March 10, 2006
Rest of the world: March 13, 2006

[ripp' fan]

Queensrÿche est un très grand groupe, les pères du metal prog' mais je trouve l'idée de faire une suite au plus grand des concept album de tous les temps au jour d'aujourd'hui assez idiote. au même titre qu'helloween de faire un keeper 3 sans Kiske, Hansen et groskopf.

[weik]

au même titre qu'helloween de faire un keeper 3 sans Kiske, Hansen et graskporf.

Le bassiste fait encore partie du groupe

[Everflow]

Finalement ça sera Dio qui tiendra le rôle de Dr X

Ils auront réussi leur plan marketing cette fois Queensrÿche Mais gare à la déception...

History is about ready to repeat itself, and in a big way. Today queensryche.com is happy to announce who the mysterious Dr. X is! It's none other than legendary rock/metal vocalist Ronnie James Dio!

Ronnie & Geoff http://www.queensryche.com/news/2005/drx_dio_01.jpg

[Bib]

Manque plus que Kiske et ça sera la totale...

[Cardinal-Sin]

la vache je vais devoir l'acheter rien que pour ça enfin si il est bon ça sera

[PE]

Manque plus que Kiske et ça sera la totale...

Pour le coup, Kiske (que j'apprécie du reste) est un (bon) clone de Geoff Tate, et pas l'inverse comme pour ses sorties "guest star" habituelles. Rappelons qu'il a été engagé dans Helloween pour ça

Pour revenir au sujet, j'espère vraiment que l'album sera bon. Je trouverais ça vraiment dommage de gacher l'"héritage Mindcrime" avec une suite pourrie. Donc j'espère qu'ils vont assurer. Mais je ne sais pas pourquoi, j'en doute un peu...

[Talasquin]

La pochette :

[Tony Le Pouilleux]

Et contenue de la direction prise depuis Promised Land, ça risque d'être aussi pire que la pochette.

[Everflow]

C'est le piercing que t'aimes pas?

[Aymerik]

Ils auront réussi leur plan marketing cette fois Queensrÿche Mais gare à la déception...

Ouaip je vais devoir le prendre ,au minimum parce qu'il y a DIO

[Tony Le Pouilleux]

C'est le piercing que t'aimes pas?

C'est le pistolet qui me fait peur.

[Talasquin]

Et contenue de la direction prise depuis Promised Land, ça risque d'être aussi pire que la pochette.

Tu veux dire après Promised Land ?

Sinon effectivement je trouve la pochette bien

Mais bon, celle de Mindcrime était pas fauleuse non plus (mais devenue culte avec le temps) et les deux ont le mérite de bien coller aux concepts.

Par contre je vois que le plan marketing fonctione, on est nombreux à se dire "tain, y'a Dio alors je vais l'acheter". Moi aussi j'ai bondi en lisant ça mais après réflexion, ça me met finalement encore plus le doute quant à la qualité intrinsèque de l'album. Je l'achèterai de toute façon, mais j'y crois de moins en moins .

[Souflette]

Sympa la pochette...en fait c'est celle de Mindcrime (qui était déjà pas terrible, mais le culte aidant...), mais version années 2000...ouais effectivement elle est bien crade Enfin elle a le mérite de rester dans le ton...espérons que le raisonnement appliqué à la pochette (la même chose en moins bien) ne s'appliquera pas à la zik.