Posté : 30 juil. 2006, 10:24
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Posté : 30 juil. 2006, 12:03
oui mon pressage américain de gutter ballet il y a l'inner sleeve avec paroles mais mon pressage allemand de Mountain King, que dalle..... ca m'embête je vais devoir me trouver le pressage americain...
Posté : 09 août 2006, 14:45
j'ai acheter le STREETS mais version allemande donc pas de paroles.
et j'ai pris aussi THE DUNGEONS ARE CALLING sur Roadrunner version hollandaise pas de paroles non plus.. sninf...
j'ai plus qu'à me faire un montage et m'imprimer un insert avec les paroles.
et j'ai pris aussi THE DUNGEONS ARE CALLING sur Roadrunner version hollandaise pas de paroles non plus.. sninf...
j'ai plus qu'à me faire un montage et m'imprimer un insert avec les paroles.
Posté : 06 nov. 2006, 22:09
Existe t'il un DVD ou même un VHS live des eigties ??
Posté : 06 nov. 2006, 23:40
sur youtube tu peux trouver des vidéos de 89 ou même 86. D'officiel il n'y a rien. Le live in Japan 94 existe en bootleg en dvd 
Posté : 07 nov. 2006, 12:16
j'ai une version de "Sirens" avec en prime le mini"dungeons are calling" et des morceaux perdus.1994
sinon j'avais racheté les version silver.
je pense que ce n'est pas super rarissime mais j'avais envie de partager ce moment avec vous hé hé hé hé
ce riff de tueur sur "city beneath the surface".j'adore!
sinon j'avais racheté les version silver.
je pense que ce n'est pas super rarissime mais j'avais envie de partager ce moment avec vous hé hé hé hé
ce riff de tueur sur "city beneath the surface".j'adore!
Posté : 07 nov. 2006, 13:16
snif alors ...... bon je vais regarder ca ce soirguardianoftheblind a écrit :sur youtube tu peux trouver des vidéos de 89 ou même 86. D'officiel il n'y a rien. Le live in Japan 94 existe en bootleg en dvd
ca je comprendsRonnie Ripper a écrit : je pense que ce n'est pas super rarissime mais j'avais envie de partager ce moment avec vous hé hé hé hé
Posté : 12 déc. 2006, 13:49
damna et megadeth : bande de moules ! comment ne pas aimer Savatage rholala
hep , tout le monde*
Moi j'suis un gros fan de SAVATAGE , j'ai eu l'occasion de les voir avec chris oliva et je peux vous dire que ça envoyait vraiment "!
Et jon compense largement son gros bide par une des plus grandes voix du métal !
vive jon , vive Jon oliva's pain !!
Up the irons
hep , tout le monde*
Moi j'suis un gros fan de SAVATAGE , j'ai eu l'occasion de les voir avec chris oliva et je peux vous dire que ça envoyait vraiment "!
Et jon compense largement son gros bide par une des plus grandes voix du métal !
vive jon , vive Jon oliva's pain !!
Up the irons
Posté : 12 déc. 2006, 14:12
Posté : 12 déc. 2006, 20:23
j'ai été obligé de revenir à la première page pour comprendre les propos de windowsofsoul!!! Des propos qui remontent à presque 4 ans, Bébert s'appelait alors Megadeth et était en couple avec Damna 
J'adore les vieux topics qui resurgissent comme ça
Posté : 05 janv. 2007, 16:14
les premiers albums,surtout l'epoque JOHN OLIVA resteros culte une production enorme ,un metal noir et lourd au superbe melodie,rapellons nous,"STRANGE WAYS" ou'bien "THE HALL OF THE MOINTAIN KING " ,
"HAULOCAUST" ect ..........................................................................
écouter donc , et vous m'en dirai des nouvelles.
"HAULOCAUST" ect ..........................................................................
écouter donc , et vous m'en dirai des nouvelles.
Posté : 05 janv. 2007, 18:23
Il n'y a que Dime pour faire autant de faute dans une seule phrase ET Dime ne connait pas Savatage Un clone maléfique? 
ET Dime ne connait pas Savatage Un clone maléfique? Posté : 05 janv. 2007, 22:39
C'est une bonne blague j'espère autant de fautes dans des titres d'un groupeBURDIGALA ANGEL a écrit :les premiers albums,surtout l'epoque JOHN OLIVA resteros culte une production enorme ,un metal noir et lourd au superbe melodie,rapellons nous,"STRANGE WAYS" ou'bien "THE HALL OF THE MOINTAIN KING " ,
"HAULOCAUST" ect ..........................................................................
écouter donc , et vous m'en dirai des nouvelles.
Fallait trouver "Strange ways"
Posté : 18 janv. 2007, 22:34
Posté : 30 avr. 2007, 00:25
Video footage of SAVATAGE performing the song "Degrees of Sanity" on the "Edge of Thorns" tour in Milan, Italy on June 8, 1993 with guitarist founding guitarist Criss Oliva has been posted online at YouTube.
Professionally shot video footage of SAVATAGE performing the song "Dead Winter Dead" at the Dynamo Open Air festival in Eindhoven, Holland in 1996 has been posted online at YouTube.com. The clip originally aired on the German music video channel VIVA TV on the metal show "Metalla".
As previously reported, an ultra-rare video clip of SAVATAGE (under the band's original moniker AVATAR) performing VAN HALEN's "Eruption" and "You Really Got Me" during an outdoor concert held in a strip mall parking lot in Clearwater, Florida sometime around 1981-1982 has been posted online at YouTube.com. Also available is a video clip of the band performing the SAVATAGE classic "Holocaust". This is the earliest (known) footage of SAVATAGE that exists. The group's lineup for the performance was as follows:
Vocals - Jon Oliva
Guitar - Criss Oliva
Bass - Keith Collins
Drums - Steve Wacholz
Professionally shot video footage of SAVATAGE performing the song "Dead Winter Dead" at the Dynamo Open Air festival in Eindhoven, Holland in 1996 has been posted online at YouTube.com. The clip originally aired on the German music video channel VIVA TV on the metal show "Metalla".
As previously reported, an ultra-rare video clip of SAVATAGE (under the band's original moniker AVATAR) performing VAN HALEN's "Eruption" and "You Really Got Me" during an outdoor concert held in a strip mall parking lot in Clearwater, Florida sometime around 1981-1982 has been posted online at YouTube.com. Also available is a video clip of the band performing the SAVATAGE classic "Holocaust". This is the earliest (known) footage of SAVATAGE that exists. The group's lineup for the performance was as follows:
Vocals - Jon Oliva
Guitar - Criss Oliva
Bass - Keith Collins
Drums - Steve Wacholz
Posté : 07 mai 2007, 23:20
Oliva s'enerve !
Je crois que c'est clair.
BW&BK Exclusive: JON OLIVA - "If You’re A SAVATAGE Fan And You Don’t Have Maniacal Renderings You’re Full Of Shit"
BW&BK scribe Carl Begai recently caught up with JON OLIVA'S PAIN / SAVATAGE frontman/founder Jon Oliva to discuss the response to JOP's latest album, Maniacal Renderings, and their plans for a new album, due out in early 2008. In particular, there were questions as to whether Oliva would use more of the demo tapes featuring his brother and original Savatage guitarist Criss that made their way into the songs on Manical Renderings
“Oh yeah, we’ve got lots of stuff," says Oliva. "Criss will probably be part of the next four or five Jon Oliva’s Pain records. I’ve got 45 tapes and I’ve only gone through 12 of them, and that was all the material we used for Maniacal Renderings. He co-wrote five songs on that record, which is why the Savatage fans that give me hell for not doing Savatage piss me off. It’s like, here you go, Criss has been dead for 15 years and you’ve got him and his brother working together like they did in the so-called ‘real’ Savatage-era and you’re still giving me shit about it? You’ve got an album out that’s got Jon Oliva and Criss Oliva working together for the first time since Edge Of Thorns; if you’re a Savatage fan and you don’t have Maniacal Renderings you’re full of shit. Still, people are buying the album, so I guess they’ve started to accept the situation."
"I know it’s sad," he says of the "will-they-or-won't they" controversy surrounding Savatage's long awaited next studio album. "The other thing that bothers me is that everybody acts like I don’t care. I started the band when I was 18 years old, it’s been my whole life, so how can they even think that? If I didn’t care I’d be calling this Savatage and raking in as much money as I could. I didn’t call JOP Savatage because I didn’t want to insult the fans or the guys who are part of Savatage. I’d make a ton of money a night if I were to call this Jon Oliva’s Savatage because the promoters want me to use the name, but I just won’t do it. I don’t need the money.”
Watch the Features section on this page for a complete interview with Jon Oliva's Pain members Kevin Rothney (bass) and Christopher Kinder (drums), coming soon.
Je crois que c'est clair.
BW&BK Exclusive: JON OLIVA - "If You’re A SAVATAGE Fan And You Don’t Have Maniacal Renderings You’re Full Of Shit"
BW&BK scribe Carl Begai recently caught up with JON OLIVA'S PAIN / SAVATAGE frontman/founder Jon Oliva to discuss the response to JOP's latest album, Maniacal Renderings, and their plans for a new album, due out in early 2008. In particular, there were questions as to whether Oliva would use more of the demo tapes featuring his brother and original Savatage guitarist Criss that made their way into the songs on Manical Renderings
“Oh yeah, we’ve got lots of stuff," says Oliva. "Criss will probably be part of the next four or five Jon Oliva’s Pain records. I’ve got 45 tapes and I’ve only gone through 12 of them, and that was all the material we used for Maniacal Renderings. He co-wrote five songs on that record, which is why the Savatage fans that give me hell for not doing Savatage piss me off. It’s like, here you go, Criss has been dead for 15 years and you’ve got him and his brother working together like they did in the so-called ‘real’ Savatage-era and you’re still giving me shit about it? You’ve got an album out that’s got Jon Oliva and Criss Oliva working together for the first time since Edge Of Thorns; if you’re a Savatage fan and you don’t have Maniacal Renderings you’re full of shit. Still, people are buying the album, so I guess they’ve started to accept the situation."
"I know it’s sad," he says of the "will-they-or-won't they" controversy surrounding Savatage's long awaited next studio album. "The other thing that bothers me is that everybody acts like I don’t care. I started the band when I was 18 years old, it’s been my whole life, so how can they even think that? If I didn’t care I’d be calling this Savatage and raking in as much money as I could. I didn’t call JOP Savatage because I didn’t want to insult the fans or the guys who are part of Savatage. I’d make a ton of money a night if I were to call this Jon Oliva’s Savatage because the promoters want me to use the name, but I just won’t do it. I don’t need the money.”
Watch the Features section on this page for a complete interview with Jon Oliva's Pain members Kevin Rothney (bass) and Christopher Kinder (drums), coming soon.
Posté : 03 août 2007, 17:51
besoin d'aide de la part des connaisseurs,
Sirens premier pressage c'est bien celui-là : Rds (PAR 1050) '83 ?
Sirens premier pressage c'est bien celui-là : Rds (PAR 1050) '83 ?
Posté : 05 août 2007, 19:49
Apparemment Sirens est d'abord sorti sur PAR Records à 1050 exemplaires, donc c'est peut-être bien ça. Mais il existe un LP bootleg récent avec la même pochette...
http://www.adrenalynrecords.com/item/1/ ... 0-usa.html
Et tiré du site officiel :
http://www.adrenalynrecords.com/item/1/ ... 0-usa.htmlEt tiré du site officiel :
Par, Combat, Relativity Records & Metal Blade/Spybad have all released Sirens. Par's is black with a blue circle on it and a woman's face on one side which sort of "fades into" a sailing ship on the other. The other known release has the more common "killer children" cover. Combat Records eventually reissued it in 1985 and again reissued on Metal Blade/Spybat in 1995 with two bonus tracks.
Q: Is there more than one cover for this album?
A: The album when first released featured a drawing of a ship with an old woman’s face on it. The band was not to pleased with this cover and it was eventually changed to the now familiar "sewer children" cover for the Combat reissue.
Q: Is it true that this was recently reissued as a picture disc LP?
A: The picture disc, which contains the artwork of the original cover printed on the LP itself is a bootleg. Approximately 500 of these were made.
Posté : 05 août 2007, 20:58
celui d'adrenalyn doit être l'original, il connait bien je lui ai acheté quelques raretés déjà.
en fait faut que je demande au gars si son exemplaire a une femme sur le derrière de la couverture. Mais en tout cas il l'annonce comme étant un PAR..
en fait faut que je demande au gars si son exemplaire a une femme sur le derrière de la couverture. Mais en tout cas il l'annonce comme étant un PAR..
Posté : 14 août 2007, 14:33
bon celui qu'on me propose est bien l'original, premier pressage sur PAR.
Par contre j'hesite encore car il est VG/VG pour 45euros.......
Par contre j'hesite encore car il est VG/VG pour 45euros.......
Posté : 20 oct. 2007, 09:51
Est-ce que quelqu'un sait si on arrive à trouver un bootleg (ou pas) du live du BANG YOUR HEAD 2001 ???
Posté : 20 oct. 2007, 12:34
Je ne l'ai jamais vu trainer non 
Posté : 20 oct. 2007, 13:25
merci quand même
Posté : 19 déc. 2007, 20:12
Triste constat, triste nouvelle, pour ceux qui comme esperaient quelques derniers lives de Savatage à venir... 
In other news, Jon Oliva has issued the following statement regarding the current status of SAVATAGE:
"It has become necessary for me to set the record straight about any possible future SAVATAGE concert performances.
"After careful consideration by me, management and members of the band, I would like to make an official statement about the state of SAVATAGE.
"The TRANS SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA is growing at an amazing rate. Our second non-Christmas record ('Nightcastle') will be released [next] year. Following that, TSO will immediately begin recording its next Christmas record while also planning for year-round touring and possible overseas performances.
"As a further result of the ever-growing popularity and demand for the TSO brand, SAVATAGE is not planning to do any future concert appearances. TSO has become a year-round responsibility for all of us and the future looks to be increasingly more demanding. Therefore, it is not possible for us to shut down this massive operation in order to perform SAVATAGE shows.
"We hope this puts to rest any speculation that SAVATAGE will be returning to the stage.
"JON OLIVA'S PAIN requires the balance of my time and energy and I am happy to be recording and touring with such a great band and the continued release of my music. Our third CD, 'Global Warning', will be released in Europe via AFM Records in mid-April 2008.
"JON OLIVA'S PAIN is the closest thing to SAVATAGE that you're going to get!"
"Thank you and we look forward to bringing the 'PAIN' to you for many years to come.
In other news, Jon Oliva has issued the following statement regarding the current status of SAVATAGE:
"It has become necessary for me to set the record straight about any possible future SAVATAGE concert performances.
"After careful consideration by me, management and members of the band, I would like to make an official statement about the state of SAVATAGE.
"The TRANS SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA is growing at an amazing rate. Our second non-Christmas record ('Nightcastle') will be released [next] year. Following that, TSO will immediately begin recording its next Christmas record while also planning for year-round touring and possible overseas performances.
"As a further result of the ever-growing popularity and demand for the TSO brand, SAVATAGE is not planning to do any future concert appearances. TSO has become a year-round responsibility for all of us and the future looks to be increasingly more demanding. Therefore, it is not possible for us to shut down this massive operation in order to perform SAVATAGE shows.
"We hope this puts to rest any speculation that SAVATAGE will be returning to the stage.
"JON OLIVA'S PAIN requires the balance of my time and energy and I am happy to be recording and touring with such a great band and the continued release of my music. Our third CD, 'Global Warning', will be released in Europe via AFM Records in mid-April 2008.
"JON OLIVA'S PAIN is the closest thing to SAVATAGE that you're going to get!"
"Thank you and we look forward to bringing the 'PAIN' to you for many years to come.
Posté : 20 déc. 2007, 10:22
Ca, c'est fait...
Posté : 20 déc. 2007, 13:06
Une corde svp