Therion - Les Fleurs du Mal

[olivier64]

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Attention Blackname, Neuneu est peut être rousse.

[Mr. Gig]

Mais il a parlé de Robert, pas de Larousse.

...Lequel ne me renvoie aucun élément de distinction chronologique d'ailleurs.



(mais je croyais qu'il fallait parler de blonde vénitienne ?)

[BLCKME]

patrimoine = héritage (donc "du passé"), point.

[Graptemiss]

Larousse dit passé et/ou présent, tout le monde a raison

[BLCKME]

LAROUSSE c'est bien de LAMERDE donc.

[chevelu]

Ensemble des biens que l’on hérite de ses ascendants ou que l’on constitue pour le transmettre à ses descendants.

c'est donc tout aussi bien passé que présent.

[BLCKME]

à mes yeux cette deuxième partie de la déf' ne fait pas grand sens vu que tant qu'il n'y a pas de descendance en question (et donc de "récepteur") l'objet ne fait pas histoire/patrimoine, mais reste l’œuvre "en passe de devenir" un patrimoine. en gros je comprends qu'on l'utilise mais c'est un abus de langage car le concept ne met pas l'accent sur l'objet en lui-même mais sur la transmission. c'est comme celui qui parle d'un bien comme d'un héritage au lieu de dire "futur héritage".
quelque part c'est un peu comme le problème de savoir ce qui est déjà passé dans l'Histoire avec un grand H ou non.

[Mr. Gig]

C'est pas nécessairement aux dicos qu'incombe la faute, mais aux tocards qui leur transmettent leur "conception" du français.

C'est l'Académie Française qui est de LAMERDE.
Quand on laisse des guignols qui se réclament d'une farce fondée par Richelieu travestir et dégénérer la langue, faut pas s'étonner que le tout soit sordidement archaïque, incohérent et contradictoire.

[BLCKME]

une fois de plus je te plussoie mec

[Graptemiss]

Bizarre, moi j'ai plutôt l'impression que les dicos s'adaptent au langage de plus en plus pauvre de notre beau pays...c'est quoi tous ces nouveaux mots anglais?

En tout cas, l'album de Therion aura le mérite de générer de beaux débats sur la langue française.

(sinon dans la description une partie de mon job est de "préserver le patrimoine naturel", et les fossiles ne m'intéressent guère, donc zut)

[Pierre]

Je me suis acheté l'album hier soir au concert, en digipack dédicacé

[the fab]

Je me suis acheté l'album hier soir au concert, en digipack dédicacé

A la sortie, beaucoup de monde avait le petit sac noir avec le CD dédicacé et le mini poster . Marrant. Il s'en est vendu un bon paquet hier soir en tout cas. J'ai filé mes 15 euros pour soutenir la démarche artistique.
J'ai écouté ça cette nuit et même si ça demande un temps d'adaptation ( je ne suis pas fan du style), j'aprécie. Dommage qu'Initials BB que j'adore en version Gainsbourg soit un peu sous exploitée selon moi.

[Everflow]

En écoute intégrale : http://music.aol.ca/new-releases-full-cds#/9

[Pierre]

Peut-être une suite en vue

Devant le succès à l'étranger de "Les Fleurs du Mal", l'album de reprises de variété française de THERION, Christoffer Johnsson vient d'annoncer qu'il allait s'atteler à l'enregistrement de nouvelles reprises, sous la forme d'un EP voire même d'un second album complet.

[Bib]

[STEELER]

Pour moi, c'est une grosse déception, une immense douleur....Je réécoute Lemuria/Sirius B, ou The Secrets of the Runes, quel pied! Ils représentaient l'avenir . Ils évoluent vers d'autres horizons, grand bien leur fasse, mais sans moi. Que vont-ils faire gober de plus sous le nom "Therion"?

[Mr. Sandman]

Un clip vidéo a été tourné pour le titre 'Mon amour, Mon ami' (reprise de Marie Laforêt).



Plutôt 'violent'...

[kingdavid of steel]

n'empeche que ce sont les seuls a avoir compris la chanson.

[Everflow]

Bigre, après ça on ne l'écoute plus de la même façon.

[Mr. Sandman]

Je me demande combien de temps il va rester sur Youtube.

[mandylion]

Clip naze et racoleur. Therion n'a rien fait de valable depuis 2007

[Hellion]

Peut être mais ça fait une paye que j'avais pas vu un clip en entier !
Cet univers me plait. Snowy Shaw sans doute...

[Gandalf]

Pareil, j'aime bien la reference à "The Wall". Et puis tant qu'il y a de beaux nichons, moi je suis content

[Everflow]

Le groupe a participé à un jeu vidéo en 2D :

The curiously quiet Therion (remember how the band was supposed to release an album last year?) is now providing music for a forthcoming 2D beat-em-up game called "Never Gone."

The band comments: "Therion is collaborating with a Chinese game manufacturer for smart phones and will supply both music and lend their characters for their upcoming game 'Never Gone.' Now who could this be...?"

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =347753650

[Everflow]

Christopher Johnsson pourrait ne plus pouvoir jouer sur scène à l'avenir en raison de gros problèmes au cou :

Therion have shared some bad news recently. Mastermind Christofer Johnsson has two spinal disc herniations in his neck and his performance at the upcoming 70000 Tons Of Metal cruise could be his last in case he has to do a neck surgery. However, that is the worst case scenario as he is trying to treat it without going under the knife.

Christofer Johnsson wrote on Facebook: "Over 2 weeks ago I started to get huge pains in my arm, shoulder and back. It hurted worse if I lay down and got worse by each day. In the end I could not even sleep in bed anymore and had to sit up sleeping in the sofa every night. Medicare in Sweden don't work anymore. Equipment is great and the doctors are competent and do their best, but due to the massive population increase, the capacity and medical infrastructure has lacked behind each year and just seem to get worse and worse. After I got in contact with the emergency, it took me eight (8) days before I got to see a physiotherapist and he could not make a proper diagnosis without a MRI scan of the neck. It would have taken up to a month before I would get a MRI done and then it can take another month before I get the results.

"At this point I slept l worse and less each night and when I tried to play guitar, I would only play half a song before the pain made me stop + my motorics got so bad that I was even physically unable to play most songs. In order to not have to cancel 70.000 Tons of Metal and in order to faster get a diagnosis and get it cured, I (upon recommendation) decided to fly to Moscow and have it done there. They are at the same technical and competence level like in Sweden, but have capacity to treat patients immediately. So I got an appointment straight away, flew there and got a fantastic care with not only MRI, but also got to see a neurologist, physiotherapists and specialists. So I got a diagnosis the same day and it seems I have two spinal disc herniations in my neck, one really bad and one small that could get worse. In plain English this means that two of my discs in the neck are worn out (from headbanging and sitting too much in front of computer in the office and the studio) and have cracked so that fluid runs out from it. The fluid put pressure on the nerves in the spinal chord and create pain in shoulder/arm/back and distort mobility in the right arm.

"In order to stabilise the neck, I have to wear a support collar for 2 weeks (even on stage) and they gave me cortisone injections to block parts of the pain temporary. So now I can at least (after 2 weeks of sleeping sitting in the sofa) sleep in my bed and with some pain and efforts I can play a festival set of simplest possible songs. So at least we don't have to cancel. After the cruise I will go back to Russia to meet a world class neuro surgeon who will determine wither it's better to do surgery or to treat this without knives. The advantage with surgery is that if successful, I would recover much quicker. But surgery in the neck is always a risk and if worse come to worse, a failed surgery there could end up with me never being able to play on stage again. To treat without surgery will be very painful and normally take 4-5 months before fully recovered (if unlucky longer), but this is what I am hoping for and the specialists that gave me the diagnosis were quite sure it would be treatable that way. But we will know for sure what the deal is after I've met the neuro surgeon after the cruise.So what does all this mean? It means that I will be playing at 70.000 TOM with great difficulties and using a support collar. It also means that the Rock Opera will get some month or two delayed, as I can't sit in the studio at the computer (I will have to use a studio assistant) and not for as long sessions as usual. It also means that if I end up having to do surgery, there is always a small risk that the cruise will end up being my final stage performance (which is a good reason for choosing the best surgeon Russia has to offer as soon as possible before the odds get worse - rather than taking my chances being assigned one randomly in Sweden and maybe have to wait many months before they have time to do it).

"Finally I would like to give a special THANK YOU to the following: Russian Embassy of Stockholm and the IFS Visa Centre in Stockholm. You people did much more than obligated by your duties and thanx to your extra efforts, I could get visa done in time for the hastily booked trip. @Leyla Namazova-Baranova and all the amazing medical specialists and staff at the hospital in Moscow, who offered me the most professional medical care treatment I have every experienced. Thanx to you people I have a diagnose now (instead of in 2 months from now), I can sleep in my bed at night and I can now even play guitar enough that we don't have to cancel the cruise. Alexander Osipov and Jane Odintsova from Imperial Age who suggested me to fly to Moscow instead and who also arranged everything for me there. If it wasn't for you guys I would have canceled the cruise by now."