Kai Hansen + Michael Kiske + Roland Grapow

[Everflow]

Nan c'est pas une blague, les 3 ont bien un nouveau projet commun, mais apparemment ça ne sera pas très metal...

In a recent interview with Spain's Laestadea.com, MASTERPLAN guitarist Roland Grapow has confirmed plans for a collaborative project with his ex-HELLOWEEN bandmates Michael Kiske (vocals) and Kai Hansen (guitar, vocals). An excerpt from the chat follows:

Q: About Hansen and Kiske, there's a rumor of a project. Is that right?

Grapow: "It's not a rumor, it's true. We’re just waiting for the right moment. We gathered together two or three times in the last two years. What happens is that Michael doesn't want to do anything with too much hard rock or too much heavy metal, too much dark or negative, he wants to do something more lively. So, probably, when I finish the tour with MASTERPLAN, I'll begin to write some tracks for Mike. Kai too. We'll see what will come out. But, once and for all, we will do something."

Q: Does this project have a name?

Grapow: "No, not yet! Perhaps it will be called HELLOWEEN! (Laughs). No, it’s a joke. At the moment we haven't thought of any names because we haven't planned it out yet. Now we only want to write a few songs which we feel comfortable with, that Michael doesn't find negative, but we all love. Because we don't want to make a Kiske solo album with two famous guitarists from the past. We search for music which speaks for itself without any need to be aggressive or negative."

[weik]

Nan c'est pas une blague, les 3 ont bien un nouveau projet commun, mais apparemment ça ne sera pas très metal...

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En voyant le titre pourtant j'y ai cru

[Bib]

Pareil que Weik...

Avec les précision, je crains plutôt le pire !!!

[Hellion]

excellent !
Kiske ne voulait plus rien a voir a faire avec le metal et il sort Place vendome, du hard rock un peu sucré il est vrai. La avec le Kai et Grapow et des chansons qui "ne doivent pas être trop negatives", je peux esperer le meilleur malgré ces déclarations !
Et puis tout ca dépendra du producteur !

[Ta'abacab]

Il manque que Kush !!!


ReChameleon Powa !!!

[Aymerik]

c'est pas potible des tetes de cons pareil

Kai avait baissé le rythme avec Majestic mais là, s'associer avec celui qui a craché sur le métal

Je continue de croire que les artistes évoluent dans un monde à part...

[PE]

c'est pas potible des tetes de cons pareil

Kai avait baissé le rythme avec Majestic mais là, s'associer avec celui qui a craché sur le métal

Il s'associe pas avec celui qui a craché sur le metal, il va bosser avec un de ses amis. faut arrêter de voir le mal partout et d'"inquisitionner" à tout va
En tout cas, Hansen et Kiske c'est une équipe qui gagne. Peu importe le style, ça sera de la qualité.

[Ta'abacab]

Et qui êtes vous tous pour juger des envies des artistes ?? des consommateurs !!

[Bib]

Si c'est des envies d'artistes et pas de producteurs...

[Ad Metal Eternam]

Qu'est-ce qu'il est casse-couilles le Kiske. on dirait une chochotte !

"(Voix de tafiole) Je ne souhaite pas qu'il y ait trop de hard rock ni de heavy metal, ni trop de choses sombres et négatives dans ce projet" (bon, en même temps, c'est Grapow qui en parle en ces termes, mais tout de même).

J'sais pas moi, il a chanté dans Helloween où il était quand même loin de faire du doom suicidaire

Quand je lis ça, j'ai l'impression qu'il a été victime d'un viol ou d'une expérience traumatisante et qu'il ne veut plus jamais en entendre parler (comme lui, quoi ).

Ou alors... Mais oui ! Mais c'est bien sûr ! Enlève ton masque, on t'a reconnu !!!


Je les aurai, par tous les moyens, je le jure !

Sacré Jacky ! Après avoir tenté de convaincre les foules sans résultat, il tente de détruire le mal à la racine en ayant la mainmise sur les icônes du genre

[Aymerik]

Et qui êtes vous tous pour juger des envies des artistes ?? des consommateurs !!

Je t'ai reconnu musclor

Si c'est des envies d'artistes et pas de producteurs...

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pi ouais Kiske il pompe et je le clame haut et fort

[Le G@SP]

c'est Jackiske Cordonnier

[Pierre]

Joli

[tiamat]

A votre avis il sait chanter comme Ben Sotto ?

[Talasquin]

Ce qu'il y a surtout de malheureux c'est la façon dont Kiske continue à cracher dans la seule soupe qui le nourrisse.

Normalement le titre du topic aurait du m'inspirer ça :
Mais j'ai peur qu'il faille plutôt s'attendre à ça :
Moralité :

[bruce bruce]

Kiske c'est un grand chanteur, mais à ce niveau c'est même plus de la tatattitude , c'est de la connerie

[screamin symphony]

Sur le papier l'affiche promet d'être alléchante..après reste à voir les compos...avoir des noms ronflants sur un cd ne suffit en général pas...

en tout cas, pour rendre le projet + metal il faudrait que durant le mix, l'ingé son gonfle les grattes et pousse la batterie à 210 bpm !! parce que si ca ressemble aux derniers efforts du Kiske en solo.....

[Ta'abacab]

Kai est en trop à mon avis, il va tout pourrir avec sa voix et son esprit metaaaal

[Aymerik]

Kai sera relegué au backing vocal je pense
ou à la limite un petit interlude

[Everflow]

A mon avis ça sera dans l'esprit du premier album solo de Kiske (Instant Clarity), déjà composé en partie par Hansen. D'ailleurs pour moi c'est le seul potable de Kiske. Depuis...

Mais c'est clair qu'il ne sert à rien de rêver d'un Keeper part III ou IV ou XXXVI... et je connais un mal rasé chez Helloween qui le prendrait mal

[Gaëtan]

Depuis...

Pas gentil pour le fromage ça.
Et puis bon, le premier Kiske potable... ... faut le dire vite et sans réfléchir à mon avis...

[Ta'abacab]

Les titres fait avec smith et kai sont bien nazes en tout cas, le reste est plus inspiré, moins cliché heavy-metal speed, moins maiden-helloween like quoi.

J'ai pas critiqué là ? si ? j'ai bon ? j'ai le droit à un joker ?

J'adore la chanson dédié à Ingo, wala. Kiske y a une voix magnifique plus mieux que jamais et pi stou. Je fais l'amour à mon lecteur CD si je veux d'abord !!!

[Yathin Lizzy]

Une interview du Croulant Crapeau qui parle du projet avec Kiske et Hansen ....


Baz Anderson of MetalStorm.ee recently conducted an interview with MASTERPLAN/ex-HELLOWEEN guitarist Roland Grapow. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow:

MetalStorm.ee: So how well do you think the album "MK II" has come across?

Roland: I think pretty good, honestly, because I think people, you know, lost a bit of faith in this band and when we released the album of course many people checked it out to see "how bad we are" — but people were surprised that nothing really changed so much, I mean the music is still the same kind of style and yeah, it's good. We did our best not to change MASTERPLAN's styles so drastically, of course Mike [DiMeo] has a different voice but his kind of endings of the melodies are always kind of bluesy, very similar to Jørn's [Lande] style, you know and I guess I wanted to keep this kind of style.

MetalStorm.ee: So are you happy with how things are going then with the new line-up and touring?

Roland: Yeah, I think the new line-up is still growing together and I still think it takes some time, maybe another album to be on the same kind of level spot, but as far as this CD the sales are quite nice, especially in Sweden and Norway had better sales then before, and Germany I don't know... I suppose we'll keep the same chart levels as before — so it's quite nice but I'm looking forward to... like I said getting stronger with the new album and coming back again first time as a headliner and.. supporting is cool, I mean we reach a lot of SAXON fans I guess — they saw us and people are mainly coming for SAXON... that's the idea, you know, of making support — this is to get to some people that never even read the magazines any more, I mean most of the fans are older like my age and also young people come out, I am surprised but it's good to hear us live or see us and "whoa, I have to buy the album" so we're doing really nice merch. So it's like we were running out of t-shirts now and we have just long sleeves and girly shirts, but the people really like to buy the CDs — that means they don't know us and that's a good sign — I hope we get a lot of English fans tonight. It's good to see the people like to buy a lot of CDs and it's better this time as support then last time as a headliner.

MetalStorm.ee: So did you have when you was selecting a new singer, because Jørn was hard to replace, did you have any other names that you was thinking of?

Roland: You want to know names?

MetalStorm.ee: Yeah, was you thinking of anyone else...

Roland: Yeah of course, Jens, no not Jens, Patrik Johansson, he's from ASTRAL DOORS he's quite a good singer, very Dio-ish... yeah and what's his name — from OUTWORLD? A singer from America, I forget his name but he was great — he was on BEYOND TWILIGHT, the second to last album after Jørn... what's his name... [he was thinking of Kelly Sundown Carpenter] but these really were the main guys — of course, I had some favourite singers but Uli didn't like them, it's always tricky when you have two guys deciding — so finally, Uli was still in the band, we decided Mike DiMeo was the best for both of us — we had the feeling he could go closer to Jørn's style without copying him, you know some other guys were copying Jørn so close it was stupid, it's not good to replace someone that is just a fan of Jørn.

MetalStorm.ee: Like Tim Owens replacing Rob Halford.

Roland: Yeah, its' like people compare it always too much and Mike has his own style, I think he has a little bit more freedom — of course, people might think "oh Jørn's better" or "I'm missing him" or whatever but comparing it still — I think the music, I think maybe people think too much about Jørn so special, but I guess the whole band and music is important, you know the melodies and the arrangements and if people like just Jørn then they should go and buy his solo CDs because it's totally different music.

MetalStorm.ee: I've read that you, Michael Kiske and Kai Hansen are supposed to be getting together to do... to "do" something.

Roland: Yeah we've had a couple of meetings already, and last time Christmas, just after Christmas and we decided now when we have time — writing songs for Michael, so Mike said "I don't want to write songs because it's too far away metal style" so Kai is writing separate first and then me when I am coming back in a couple of months I guess and play the first songs to Mike and see if he likes it.

MetalStorm.ee: So this is going to be a completely separate bands then?

Roland: It's a totally new project it would be first and then if it's successful then we'll see, but then we're planning lots of touring and playing gigs.

MetalStorm.ee: Will this be a predominantly power metal album?

Roland: It will be very tasteful power metal, nothing too drastical or brutal or too stupid fast - I mean many people know about Mickael Kiske's opinions about this but I guess he's a bit more open, definitely, when it's coming from Kai and me — also we will have some double bass, haha, but it will be very melodic from the vocal side because I guess the only strength on his vocals if it's really melodic, like if you have songs like "Eagle Fly Free" from HELLOWEEN, or you know "I Want Out" or "Heroes" from MASTERPLAN, this fits in very nice you know, or the AVANTASIA stuff as well — but his solo stuff is always just one note, he's always holding... [and then impersonates Michael singing and holding just one note] and it's always like a bit boring you know... without criticizing him, he likes this kind of style but I guess his strengths are much more melodic. Like anthems you know, these kinds of melodies you know, like the ballad like the one from HELLOWEEN which was number one in Korea you know [and then sings] "in my heart, in my soul.. da da da-da" — it's not easy to write but you know if you write the stuff with voice and it's quite nice compared to Jørn or Mike DiMeo — I would never write stuff for them like this, it's too pitchy, but with Michael Kiske's voice it sounds really great. I think that is much more important then if it is just a fast double bass track or if it's just aggressive guitar playing, I don't think these are as important any more. The whole concept should be good.

MetalStorm.ee: Do you're going to see how successful this is then and then the possibility of touring...

Roland: Yeah! that's what I said, if we have a good... good... good feelings with this whole thing and we are getting of course a bass player and drummer and then we're recording it and then looking for a record deal — and then if we get a good kind of deal then I guess we will announce already tour dates, and we will also be playing some older HELLOWEEN stuff written from Kai and Kiske and me — and I guess people will have a lot of fun hearing the old HELLOWEEN stuff with the new stuff, and if we make it clever then I think it should fit - but that's the idea we are definitely looking forward. Mike, Mike Kiske has already said of course you could play some shows already, maybe people asking us already if we would just be playing the old stuff of HELLOWEEN but it would be wrong — you should present a new album and then some older stuff, that's it — not like some HELLOWEEN kind of cover band.

MetalStorm.ee: So are there any names kicking around at the moment? Any other band members?

Roland: No, no — the best would be if Markus Großkopf would play bass, and maybe he is doing it — we have to ask him, it's just if he gets into trouble with HELLOWEEN, he had a very unique style which is really great, he is very kind of playing his own melody bass instead of just copying the rhythm guitar, and... but for drummer definitely would maybe be Uli — I mean, Ingo would be perfect but he's not there any more... we will see, the drummer is what we are not sure — I mean a long time ago I asked Uli if he would join this project as well and he says "meeh, probably" — he has really problems with Kai, they're not really talking to each other, and now I don't really like to play with Uli any more. Haha, so we have two reasons. Yeah, then I am planning many many projects like doing another solo album, or something like... something... which I don't want to tour with, something like totally different from the metal like a rock/blues, very basic album and maybe singing with some great singers on it... or I am also planning something very dramatic, you know... not like a metal opera or something, but very more basic, progressive kind of stuff which is dynamic and very tasteful...



Voila, donc en gros (pour ceux que ca emmerde de lire):
ça va sûrement se faire, ce sera sûrement métal mais pas trop (ca dépend de Kiske), si ca marche ils vont sûrement tourner et jouer aussi des vieux Helloween, il vont demander à Markus Grosskopf s'il est ok pour les rejoindre (avec l'accord de Helloween) mais ils vont pas demander à Uli Kusch (parcequ'il s'entend pas avec Kai Hansen).... voila [/b]

[Bib]

Cool, j'avais la flemme de lire !

Bon à suivre quoi...

[Talasquin]

Tain mais qu'il est con ce Roland

Bordel mais avec Patrick Johansson ou Kelly Sundown Carpenter Masterplan aurait quand même eu une autre gueule qu'avec DiMeo

Et que c'est la faute à Uli parcequ'il voulait pas, et que c'est pas ma faute à moi, et que si j'avais été moins gland j'aurais décidé tout seul au lieu d'écouter un gars qui a foutu le camp depuis.