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Un groupe de rap allemand du nom de Bushido exploiterait la musique de Dimmu Borgir sans avoir demandé leur consentement . Du coup, les Norvégiens envisagent des poursuites en justice:



According to Bild.de, Norwegian symphonic black metallers DIMMU BORGIR are threatening to sue German rapper Bushido for allegedly using the melodies from DIMMU BORGIR's songs on his albums without permission.

DIMMU BORGIR manager Yvette Uhlmann stated: "The band was contacted via the Internet and was told that Bushido had stolen the melody of their song 'Mourning Palace' and that he used it in his song 'Mittelfingah'. Since we were not contacted by Bushido through proper channels and told about his desire to do this, it is clear that Bushido has seriously infringed our intellectual property rights."

DIMMU BORGIR is now seeking compensation from Bushido and will file a lawsuit against the 29-year-old rapper if the two parties fail to come to an agreement.

DIMMU BORGIR guitarist Silenoz is quoted as saying: "If the German rapper in question does not agree to compensate us adequately, we will sue him! Whoever crosses us will face serious consequences."

Lawyers for DIMMU BORGIR and Bushido are currently negotiating a possible settlement.

Bushido has declined to comment on the case.

Although only one track from DIMMU BORGIR is mentioned in the Bild.de article, there are in fact two songs from each artist that are at the center of this dispute. Listen to the tracks below and form your own opinion as to whether DIMMU BORGIR has a valid case.

1. DIMMU BORGIR - "Mourning Palace"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EukScQuL2A

BUSHIDO - "Mittelfingah"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2k1TqPdChY

2. DIMMU BORGIR - "Alt Lys Er Svunnet Hen"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHanfkcwRU

BUSHIDO - "Engel"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imosDcAmCHQ

J'ai fait l'effort d'écouter "Mittelfingah" de Bushido, et c'est clair que c'est les nappes de claviers de "Mourning palace" qui ont été samplées. C'est un peu moins évident pour la deuxième, mais ce sont bien les mêmes lignes de piano.
En tout cas, c'est horrible

Il y a aussi un groupe de rap américain qui a samplé Manowar "Call to arms" ( c'est bon, vous pouvez vous énerver maintenant )

C'est flagrant pour le premier titre et pour le second, effectivement, c'est bien la même mélodie qu'on retrouve! Je suis verte de voir l'usage qu'à fait ce rappeur teuton de Dimmu... beurk!!!!

z avait cas mettre du clavier partout dans leur titre, bien fait

Ouech, Dimmu Borgir est dans la Mourning Place !

Ça l'aurait pu être pire, ils auraient pu piquer du Dragonlord.

L'essentiel étant quand même que nos groupes préférrés ne samplent pas du RAP ...

Boarf, ça va sûrement se faire au prochain retournement de veste de Trivium

Pour la peine, c'est connu mais c'est rigolo...


RAP VS. BLACK METAL

Rap: Obsessed with ”keeping it real,” an arbitrary set of rules
BM: Obsessed with ”staying true,” an arbitrary set of rules

Rap: Band members with fake names
BM: Band members with fake names

Rap: Complaints about oppression from white Christians
BM: Complaints about oppression from white Christians

Rap: Overly concerned with making money
BM: Overly concerned with not making money

Rap: Cheesy synthesizers
BM: Cheesy synthesizers

Rap: Barely in English
BM: Barely in English

Rap: 100 guest appearances on every album
BM: 100 side projects by every band member

Rap: Closed-minded fan base
BM: Closed-minded fan base

Rap: Very expensive tennis shoes
BM: Very expensive leather boots

Rap: Imagery containing dogs
BM: Imagery containing wolves

Rap: Rips off samples from pop music
BM: Rips off ideas from classical music

Rap: Videos with super-shiny floors and cars
BM: Videos with super-shiny swords

Rap: Imagery of the urban jungles
BM: Imagery of the bleak forests

Rap: Songs about hanging out
BM: Songs about hanging people

Rap: Overly concerned with appearance
BM: Overly concerned with appearance

Rap: High number of guys with either no hair or long hair
BM: High number of guys with either no hair or long hair

Rap: Vocal style masks lack of singing ability
BM: Vocal style masks lack of singing ability

Rap: Musicians face accusations of selling out
BM: Musicians face accusations of selling out

Rap: Videos with scantily-clad women
BM: Promo photos with scantily-clad women

Rap: Bitching about being enslaved
BM: A bunch of bitches called Enslaved

Excellent, le parallèle rap/black

Et l'autre truc rigolo, c'est que Dimmu sont eux-même accusés d'avoir copié une musique de jeu vidéo pour un morceau de Stormblast...

Le compositeur a écrit :"If you'd like to hear a cover version of the ['incorrect'] Agony Intro theme, then get hold of a copy of Stormblast (1996) by Dimmu Borgir. There's a track on there called "Sorgens Kammer" and it's a blatant rip-off of my music. I have contacted them, but they just give me excuses, and it's not worth suing them for the pennies I'd get back - oh well, life sucks!"

http://www.exotica.org.uk/tunes/unexoti ... Agony.html

6 ans plus tard, rebelote !
Cette fois le rappeur aurait utilisé un bout de la chanson éponyme des norvégiens. A vous de juger.

For the second time in six years, German rapper Bushido (real name: Anis Mohamed Youssef Ferchichi) is accused of having "stolen" music from the black metal band DIMMU BORGIR, this time for his new song "Leben Und Tod Des Kenneth Glöckler" (English-language translation: "Life And Death Of Kenneth Glöckler").

Bushido's track — which will appear on his upcoming album "Sonny Black" (due in February 2014) — allegedly borrows the musical theme from the DIMMU BORGIR cut "Dimmu Borgir", which is featured on the Norwegian group's 2010 CD "Abrahadabra".

Read more at http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dimmu- ... vqdee3z.99

Ah ben ouais, c'est carrément la mélodie du refrain ouais !

Purin Bushido ( de son vrai nom Mohammed jenesaisplusquoi), ma petite soeur l'adorait


Mais j'aurais reconnu directement Mourning Palace, pas très subtils les gars...

Toi oui... Mais dans le grand public non metalleux, qui reconnaîtrait un passage de Dimmu Borgir ?

Il y avait peu de chance que les deux publics se croisent en effet....Sauf en Allemagne, sont moins élitistes eux

Bien nul ce morceau de Dimmu Borgir au passage.