Retour de Nevermore

[Stéphane]

http://nevermoreofficial.com/

[metalrunner]

Si Loomis a quitté Arch c est pas pour rien j espère

[BurningDarkness]

Au début ça m'a surpris puis en fait pourquoi pas s'il trouve un bon chanteur...

[Bertrand]

Jim Sheppard en est ?

[Denis]

Petite typo dans le nom dans le titre du sujet

[demes]

Décidément Flo a du mal avec les noms des groupes en ce moment.

[Stéphane]

Décidément Flo a du mal avec les noms des groupes en ce moment.

C'était pas flo

[demes]

Ah zut.

[Stéphane]

Jim Sheppard en est ?

Je crois avoir la réponse... Ca s'annonce bien ce retour

JIM SHEPPARD Blasts NEVERMORE Reunion, Calls It "Completely Disrespectful"

https://metalinjection.net/news/jim-she ... XzWAzToStw

[Everflow]

C'est confirmé, ils lancent un appel à candidatures pour les postes de chanteur et bassiste.

Et je suis assez partagé.

D'un côté je peux tout à fait comprendre les raisons de Loomis et Williams.
Van Williams avait monté un groupe (Ghost Ship Octavius) qui s'est cassé la gueule récemment après le départ du chanteur/guitariste. Cela doit le saouler de tenter de le relancer.
Jeff Loomis a sorti des albums solo sans doute intéressants mais très discrets puis a joué le pigiste de luxe chez Arch Enemy, rien dont on se souviendra dans 20 ans. S'il a quitté ces derniers c'est donc naturellement pour jouer sa propre musique.

D'un autre côté c'est quand même moche de leur part de ne pas avoir demandé son avis à Jim Sheppard, lui aussi fondateur du groupe, mais ils se doutaient certainement de sa réponse négative. Et il n'est de toute façon plus en capacité physique de jouer sur scène. Le ressentiment entre eux doit être très fort pour en arriver là.

En tout cas le groupe ne sera jamais dans le même esprit, Warrel Dane étant à l'origine de tous les textes (parfois autobiographiques), des concepts, de toute l'image de Nevermore, sans parler des lignes vocales bien sûr. On ne remplace pas un personnage pareil juste par un autre, son identité est trop gravée dans leur musique pour que ce soit possible.
Donc ce sera forcément un groupe différent, mais sous le même nom. Pourtant quand Sanctuary a splitté, Dane, Loomis et Sheppard ont ensuite créé une nouvelle entité Nevermore, ils n'ont jamais cherché à réutiliser le nom de Sanctuary. Mais après tout ils font ce qu'ils veulent, le nom Nevermore leur appartient.

Dans le communiqué ci-dessous ils semblent honnêtes : Nevermore a été le groupe de leur vie, ils ne savent pas être autre chose que des musiciens et comme tout le monde accessoirement ils ont besoin de quelques revenus pour payer les factures. La conclusion s'impose d'elle-même.

Leur nouveau communiqué :

Earlier today (Tuesday, December 31),Van and Jeff both released separate statements via social media clarifying their plans for NEVERMORE and announcing that they were seeking new musicians to complete the revamped outfit.

Van wrote: "So, the NEVERMORE teaser has sparked a lot of positivity and some expected negativity. Let me (Van) address the negative first. Some people think it's disrespectful not to involve Jim or inform him of our plans. But those who feel that way don't know the history of the band or the behind-the-scenes dynamics that led to this decision. While it may not have been the most ideal approach, the reality is that there hasn't been communication with Jim in years.

"We felt that sometimes, for the sake of a fresh start, it's necessary to move on from relationships that may no longer be conducive to growth or new beginnings. We made this decision with the intention of honoring the legacy of the band while moving forward in a way that felt right for us at the time. That said, we wish him good health and he is free to pursue whatever path he chooses. Without going into too much detail, I'll just say respect goes both ways, and certain things became irreconcilable over time for us. At this point in my life, I don't feel the need to explain myself further on this, so take from that what you will.

"As for why I'm revisiting NEVERMORE, it's simple, this band has always been my dream. To find a group of guys to be in a band with and travel the world and create music. After auditioning to the moment I was asked to join, it was a whirlwind of music, art, creativity, adventure, fun and camaraderie. Over the years, we made incredible music and amazing memories together. But as time went on, things spiraled out of control..trust, respect, and the joy of it all started to disappear. I always compare it to an analogy like having a cake and eating it too, but in our case, it turned into having a cake covered in shit frosting…You wanna eat it but it's covered in shit!.. The final breaking point came during the last leg of our European tour with SYMPHONY X, after which it was clear we couldn't continue as we were. After years of us building the best band we could for ourselves we couldn't get on the same page to fix it. Jeff and I went one way; Warrel [Dane, NEVERMORE singer] and Jim went another. There was no reconciliation. Warrel went to Brazil, Jim retired to Alaska, and years passed without contact.

"During this time, my personal life took a devastating turn when my wife was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. We did everything to create a sense of normalcy for our little boy and we did our best to make her comfortable. Warrel would occasionally call from Brazil, and while we exchanged kind words during those calls, it didn't erase the past and I can tell that certain things haven't changed. Dore passed on in 2020, and her loss crushed me and my boy, we feel that loss still to this day. I personally feel like I am just starting to come out of a coma truth be told and thank God I'm finally seeing the light and grateful for who and what I still have in my life. I'll never be able to express the gratitude I feel for my family, close friends, and fans who helped me and my family through all the dark days. Thank you all so very much for helping me get through the toughest times.

"Through it all, Jeff remained one of my strongest supporters, and our bond deepened. Over time, we both missed the joy of creating and performing together. NEVERMORE was a huge part of that joy, something I'm tremendously proud of.

"For those calling this a 'money grab,' I have to disagree. Most musicians don't do this for the money. We've spent countless hours thru the years sweating, rehearsing, performing, and recording simply because we love it. This is what we chose to do in life because we've always loved it. That's what drives us, the passion for music, the connection with fans, and the creative process. If money comes from that, great but it has never been the focus, but we also have bills to pay like you.

"So here we are, Jeff and I want to honor NEVERMORE's legacy by finding musicians who can respect what Warrel and Jim brought to the band while helping us build a new chapter. And this isn't about replacing Warrel, no one can. But it's about finding someone who can honor his work while contributing something new. We want to give fans a chance to come together, celebrate the music, and sing those incredible lyrics again. And, hopefully, we can create new music that stands alongside the classics.

"I wish the situation with Jim were different, but the past has brought us here. I am personally focusing on positivity and positive people and will refuse to get tangled in the negativity of the past. If Jeff and I can find the right vocalist and bassist—musicians who respect the legacy and want to move forward with us—then this new chapter can be something truly special for all who choose to come along with us. This isn't going to be a cover band, or a tribute band, it's going to be the next evolution/chapter of a band determined to pick up the flag and carry on this thing we call NEVERMORE.

"I look forward to seeing you all again."

Jeff wrote: "I couldn't agree more with Van's statement. There have obviously been a lot of ups and downs with NEVERMORE's past history. I'd like to just remember the good ones, while carrying the torch with Van to yet another level of the band.

"My heart has always been in it for the music, touring and performing. I've had some great times playing with other musicians these past 10-11 years, but NEVERMORE has and will always be my personal portal to some of the best music I've ever done and created.

"No one can replace Warrel Dane. Bottom line. With his interesting melodies and charisma onstage, he was a force that was a huge part of the band both lyrically and spiritually. With that being said, we aren't looking for a Warrel Dane clone.

"We are looking for someone that can carry the older NEVERMORE tunes in his vocal style, and someone who can add something new and refreshing to the next chapter of the band. Obviously, this won't be the easiest thing to do.

"With all this being said, we are going on a WORLD SEARCH seeking two extraordinary musicians. One main lead vocalist, and one bass player to join the fold and help carry our legacy forward. We have since filled the position of a second guitarist, but more on that a bit later in another update!"

Vocalist auditions:

"NEVERMORE is known for its intense emotional resonance, and obviously this came through Warrel's unique vocal dynamics. We're looking for a vocalist who can deliver a wide range of tonnes and emotions with mastery and authenticity.

"Dynamic Range: Capable of singing high notes and resonant lows, blending power and vulnerability as the song demands.

"Expressive Depth: Beyond technical skill, we're looking for someone who can incorporate the raw emotion and haunting themes that define NEVERMORE's music.

"Stage Presence: We need someone who works well with an audience and embodies the intensity of the music in a live setting."

Bassist auditions:

"We're looking for a rock-solid player who understands how to create depth and drive in NEVERMORE's arrangements. Precision, groove, and the ability to lock in tight with Van is a huge plus. If you can contribute backing vocals, that would be great as well. Someone that can keep the rhythm section tight is all we ask.

"What we are looking for in both roles: Positive attitude...We want individuals who bring good energy to the band dynamic. We're seeking people who can maintain focus, professionalism, and respect for the music. Someone who is reliable, prepared and has a strong work ethic.

"You must be open to extensive worldwide touring with an active and current passport. A willingness to work together creatively, support each other, and represent NEVERMORE with integrity on and off the stage."

How to audition:

"Singers: Submit a video of yourself singing the song 'Born' and 'Sentient 6' from the 'This Godless Endeavor' album. Please feel free to sing as much of the song as you want. If you choose not to do the whole song, please at least sing a full verse and chorus of each song. Please also include a brief introduction about your background, influences, and what you can bring to the band. We encourage you to demonstrate everything to the best of your potential.

"Bassists: Should please play the songs 'Enemies Of Reality' and 'Inside Four Walls' while standing up focusing on tightness, technique and feel.

"Send us a PRIVATE YouTube link to your auditions to: officialnevermoreinfo@gmail.com

"Along with Van, I'm very excited to see and hear from you. Thank you again to the fans all around the world for your kindness and support. Here's to an incredible 2025!"

[demes]

L'ancien bassiste n'est pas content :

https://blabbermouth.net/news/nevermore ... -band-name

[horde]

étrange de lancer ce genre d'idée sans l'accord de tous

[BurningDarkness]

Il devait déjà y avoir des bisbilles à l'époque ?

[Everflow]

Oui Jim Sheppard était en quelque sorte protégé par son pote de toujours Warrel Dane mais il y avait deux camps qui s'étaient formés au fil des années, et qu'on retrouve donc aujourd'hui dans leurs déclarations publiques.
En outre je pense que les plus gros consommateurs de substances diverses et variées dans le groupe étaient probablement Dane (certain) et Sheppard (pas certain mais probable), ce qui a de leur propre aveu joué un rôle important dans l'autodestruction et le split de Nevermore.

[Everflow]

Jim Sheppard a publié un communiqué lui-même, et non via sa femme comme précédemment. Il est déçu, mais pas revanchard.
En croisant les communiqués on voit clairement que Van Williams et lui ne s'apprécient pas du tout.

Earlier today (Saturday, January 4),Sheppard released the following statement to BLABBERMOUTH.NET: "In my heart, NEVERMORE will always be Warrel, Jeff and I living in a one-room apartment, slaves to an eight-track recording machine, non-stop songwriting insanity. We were driven, we were hungry... To quote Dave Mustaine, we were ready to 'smile, eat shit and ask for more!'

"True, I've been retired. I enjoy my new life in Alaska following bears with my wife Priscila, a wildlife photographer.

"My opinion of [Loomis's and Williams's] press release [announcing the NEVERMORE comeback is] Van came across self-promoting and Jeff felt very sincere; he truly wants to capture a little piece of the magic we held.

"I'm disappointed no one reached out to me concerning the name NEVERMORE, a name that means blood, sweat and tears.

"With that said, I wish them the best."

[Everflow]

L'ex-chanteur d'Ecclesia a tenté sa chance, ce n'est pas trop son registre et ce serait étonnant qu'il finisse dans la short list (350 candidatures reçues apparemment) mais il s'en sort pas mal du tout :

[metalrunner]

Franchement il y a de l émotion pourquoi pas

[BurningDarkness]

Oui j'aime bien le rendu aussi !

[Set]

Mine de, ça illustre à merveille le fait que Warrel Dane était un chanteur exceptionnel

[Achille]

Je ne sais pas trop si je dois me réjouir ou pas de cette nouvelle... Je ne voudrais pas que la légende et le sans-faute du groupe soit entaché. En vrai, il aurait été mieux que les mecs fassent un groupe à part même si, bien sur, le nom Nevermore est plus atrayants.

[Chacal]

Je ne sais pas trop si je dois me réjouir ou pas de cette nouvelle... Je ne voudrais pas que la légende et le sans-faute du groupe soit entaché. En vrai, il aurait été mieux que les mecs fassent un groupe à part même si, bien sur, le nom Nevermore est plus atrayants.

Sans faute... faut avoir vu Dane s'effondrer sur scène et le groupe terminer en instrumental pour savoir que c'est pas forcément vrai.
Dane était un chanteur exceptionnel, dans son songwriting et dans son timbre, qui reflétait bien à quel point il était tourmenté.
C'est impossible de remplacer quelqu'un comme ça, mais mine de rien il est aussi la cause de la fin du groupe.
Je suis mitigé aussi, autant j'aimerai bien un nouvel album, autant ça va sonner coverband.

[Stéphane]

L'ex-chanteur d'Ecclesia a tenté sa chance, ce n'est pas trop son registre et ce serait étonnant qu'il finisse dans la short list (350 candidatures reçues apparemment) mais il s'en sort pas mal du tout :

oh, mais c'est Arnaud !

C'est a lui qu'on a confié le mix et le mastering des 2 derniers morceaux de Bullet Ride sortie l'an dernier !

[Achille]

Je ne sais pas trop si je dois me réjouir ou pas de cette nouvelle... Je ne voudrais pas que la légende et le sans-faute du groupe soit entaché. En vrai, il aurait été mieux que les mecs fassent un groupe à part même si, bien sur, le nom Nevermore est plus atrayants.

Sans faute... faut avoir vu Dane s'effondrer sur scène et le groupe terminer en instrumental pour savoir que c'est pas forcément vrai.
Dane était un chanteur exceptionnel, dans son songwriting et dans son timbre, qui reflétait bien à quel point il était tourmenté.
C'est impossible de remplacer quelqu'un comme ça, mais mine de rien il est aussi la cause de la fin du groupe.
Je suis mitigé aussi, autant j'aimerais bien un nouvel album, autant ça va sonner coverband.

Alors pour le "sans faute" je parlais au niveau des albums. Parce que ouais Dane sur scène et même dans la vraie vie, avec ses soucis d'alcool, c'était loin d'être un sans faute malheureusement...

[Everflow]

^ et probablement pas que l'alcool malheureusement...

650 (!) candidatures ont été reçues, ils peuvent désormais passer les 6 prochains mois à étudier tout ça.

[Achille]

J'ai vu passer la nouvelle comme quoi le line-up était fait. On devrait donc avoir des noms dans pas longtemps...