Perso, j'ai réécouté le premier, je l'ai trouvé vraiment sympa. Je trouve qu'ils avaient déjà posé certaines bases pour les chansons lentes et un peu lourdes. Ca m'a de suite fait penser à Lochness ou Victms of changes.
Je me demande bien ce que certains morceaux donneraient dans une version plus actuelle, plus metal (un peu comme Never Sitisfied en live).
Bah il n'ya pas une si grande différence entre Sad wings et Rocka Rolla. Sad wings est dans la continuité directe du 1er, très influencé par le Sab'. C'est juste que les compos de Sad Wings sont meilleures dans l'ensemble.
Sinon, moi je préfère "Diamond and rust" version Sin after sin que la version Rocka rolla!
Dark Schneider a écrit :Bah il n'ya pas une si grande différence entre Sad wings et Rocka Rolla. Sad wings est dans la continuité directe du 1er, très influencé par le Sab'. C'est juste que les compos de Sad Wings sont meilleures dans l'ensemble.
Ouais mais je trouve que les compos de Rocka Rolla sont pas assez mises en valeur par le son. Et puis le groupe se cherche un peu encore. Dans Sad Wings, y a clairement un virage metal qui est prononcé.
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A propos des 2 premiers albums, Ian Hill estime que c'est sur ceux-ci qu'il a eu le plus d'influence. Ainsi que sur... Jugulator! J'aurais pensé à Sin After Sin également.
MetalTalk.net: Moving on to your musical contribution to Judas Priest; as a bass player when you were creating innovative fast tracks like 'Exciter' in the 1970s, (from the 'Stained Class' album) with drummer Les Binks, who specialised in double-kick work – did you have to adapt your style?
Ian Hill: "No. I just played quicker – it's as simple as that!"
MetalTalk.net: But did you realise your songs would have such an impact after more than thirty years?
Ian Hill: "Well we've always done fast songs. One of the magical things about Heavy Metal – there's fast, slow, heavy, light and commercial stuff. Music that will make you weep, or stuff that will make you shit yourself! So Priest always did fast songs – we just played quicker and it was a gradual build up to songs like 'Painkiller'."
MetalTalk.net: On which albums do you feel you had most influence?
Ian Hill: "Hmmm... let me think... Probably the first two albums – they have lots of bass work on them. And 'Jugulator', that's got some busy bass! Because we have two lead guitarists with distorted sounds, the bass has to remain clear so I don't use any effects. I use a pick to help me play quicker and heavier but it remains a foundation. I haven't changed my style much over the years. The basic Judas Priest sound is just a good foundation of bass and drums and we build on top of that.
I'm the lost one chasing colors to the sun
Colors bleed but never fade
Je n'avais pas connaissance de ce mix de Screaming, de toute évidence fait par un bassiste. Sur pas mal de chansons je trouve qu'elles en bénéficient. Leur fin est parfois différente.
Moins d'effets sur le chant aussi (mais il en reste pas mal quand même). Intéressant en tout cas, ça aurait mérité d'être dans une réédition.
I'm the lost one chasing colors to the sun
Colors bleed but never fade
01 - Electric Eye
02 - Riding on the Wind
03 - Heading Out to the Highway
04 - Metal Gods
05 - Bloodstone
06 - Breaking the Law
07 - Sinner
08 - Desert Plains
09 - The Ripper
10 - Diamonds & Rust (Joan Baez cover)
11 - Devil's Child
12 - Screaming for Vengeance
13 - You've Got Another Thing Comin'
14 - Victim of Changes
15 - Living After Midnight
16 - The Green Manalishi (With the Two Prong Crown) (Fleetwood Mac cover)
17 - Hell Bent for Leather
I'm the lost one chasing colors to the sun
Colors bleed but never fade
Ce concert est un de mes bootlegs préférés, et désormais il est plus ou moins officiel car inclus dans le coffret des 50 ans du groupe.
Il ne s'agissait que d'un concert promo devant 50 personnes voire moins à New York, donc aucune ambiance, ça papote entre les morceaux, et Rob était sans doute sous substances illicites vu ce qu'il baragouine parfois. Mais la performance de tout le groupe est juste superbe, "dans la zone" comme on dit en anglais. Quel dommage qu'il soit si court sinon il pouvait peut-être prétendre à devenir le concert de référence de cette époque.
Imaginez Unleashed in the East / Priest in the East en version légèrement plus crue avec surtout un son plus percutant sur la batterie (d'un Les Binks en feu), et une basse plus présente dans le mix. Ecoutez par exemple cette version de "Victim of Changes", vous allez comprendre.
Bien sûr le solo sur "Beyond the Realms of Death" est juste parfait.
En résumé, si jamais vous préférez le Priest fin 70's, vous devez absolument écouter ce concert.
00:18 Hell Bent For Leather
02:57 Delivering The Goods
07:13 Running Wild
10:59 Beyond The Realms Of Death
18:32 The Green Manalishi
22:13 Victim Of Changes
30:12 Rock Forever
33:52 Starbreaker
I'm the lost one chasing colors to the sun
Colors bleed but never fade
Rocka Rolla a été remixé et remasterisé par leur fidèle Tom Allom, après que le groupe en ait racheté les droits. Pas de bonus par contre...
JUDAS PRIEST Announces 50th-Anniversary 'Remixed And Remastered' Version Of 'Rocka Rolla'
September 10, 2024
The remixed and remastered version of JUDAS PRIEST's classic debut album, 1974's "Rocka Rolla", will be released digitally in the U.S. and Canada on Friday, September 13. The CD and vinyl versions of "Rocka Rolla - 50th Anniversary: Remixed And Remastered 1974 - 2024" will arrive on Friday, November 22.
In 1974, before the eternal metal flame was ever lit, JUDAS PRIEST — singer Rob Halford, guitarist Glenn Tipton, bassist Ian Hill, guitarist K.K. Downing and drummer John Hinch — were simply five young musicians in their 20s from the Black Country an area of working-class towns in England excited to have signed a record deal. With limited funds, the band recorded during the less expensive night shift hours. The album "Rocka Rolla" was born during these sessions, under the guidance of producer Roger Bain who was brought in by the label and who had previously produced BLACK SABBATH.
JUDAS PRIEST learnt over time how to record an album, and the experience of working in a professional recording studio helped prepare them for the next album to come, one of the most definitive and foundational heavy metal albums of all time, "Sad Wings Of Destiny". But with "Rocka Rolla", the band was not there for the mixing, the mastering process or any final approvals — they didn't have a say when it was finished or how it ultimately sounded. Although the band felt positive about how the songs sounded in the studio, they were particularly disappointed when they received a finished copy of the album in the mail to listen to for the first time.
Halford recalls: "I took the record and I put the needle onto the groove and I sat back. And I just slowly started to deflate, deflate. I was so disappointed with the way it was sounding. All of us were — we'd all worked so hard to get to this place. And now this music that we know when we play live is roaring — the heavy metal is roaring even in those early primitive days — none of that was coming out of the speakers"
The band never had a future say in "Rocka Rolla" in the intervening decades — the re-releases and early-era compilations… but that was about to change.
During JUDAS PRIEST's "50 Heavy Metal Years" tour in 2022, something remarkable was happening behind the scenes. The label that originally signed JUDAS PRIEST in 1974, Gull Records, and its owner David Howells, decided to sell the masters and publishing rights for the two albums the label owned, "Rocka Rolla" and "Sad Wings Of Destiny", and David contacted Tipton's music publisher, Michael Closter of Reach Music Publishing.
After discussing this opportunity and collaborating with JUDAS PRIEST's manager Jayne Andrews, a compelling offer from Reach Music was made to Gull Records. Terms were accepted. An acquisition agreement was prepared, and after almost 50 years from the release of these albums, Reach Music and its label Exciter Records, in partnership with JUDAS PRIEST, was now the owner of "Rocka Rolla" and "Sad Wings Of Destiny".
The first order of business was to retrieve the original multitrack tapes from storage (which miraculously still existed and kept in usable condition for all these decades) — and to begin the process of resurrecting "Rocka Rolla" from these multitrack recordings...
With the task of delving back into time and putting the tapes of "Rocka Rolla" back on the recording studio console, JUDAS PRIEST put their full faith in Tom Allom, known in the JUDAS PRIEST world for producing the iconic "British Steel" and "Screaming For Vengeance" albums, among many others.
As Allom states: "What we did with the multitracks is quite unusual, to completely remix an album from that era, from scratch. So to clarify what we're doing, we're not adding anything musically. We're not re-recording any of the musical parts… We're remixing them, rebalancing them using the technology we have, the modern tools we have now, to sonically upgrade them, and make them sound more powerful."
The results of this remixed version are now available for posterity — the artist-approved version of "Rocka Rolla" is finally here for fans to add to their JUDAS PRIEST collection.
Halford says: "It's great to look back and see our future unfurl — from little metal acorns mighty metal oaks do grow. One small step for metal, one giant leap for metalkind — a lifelong metal journey began with these songs. This album lit the eternal metal flame — as real and fresh as ever five decades on.
He adds: "I'm just thrilled… because it just goes to show you when you get an expert involved in a project, it's likely that you have a second chance. And I think that Tom Allom is giving us a second chance here with the way that a lot of the elements were lost in 'Rocka Rolla'. And it's also nice, like a really nice feeling, especially to attach it to what will be a 50th-anniversary moment. It's just a beautiful feeling."
Tipton says: "This is where it all started for us and 50 years later, we have a great re-mixed and re-mastered version of the original...and the band are still going strong!"
Hill states: "Recorded during nighttime sessions to save costs, over a few weeks in June and July 1974, on a shoestring budget, 'Rocka Rolla' was always going to have its flaws! But walking into my local record store and seeing it on a shelf amongst all your idol's records was the proudest feeling in the world, and I thought, 'Whatever happens now, nothing can change that!' Now remixed by Tom Allom and remastered, 'Rocka Rolla' has finally got the production it deserved!"
Downing says: "At last! This! The first JUDAS PRIEST album can be listened to and enjoyed in the way it was always intended to be!"
01. One For The Road
02. Rocka Rolla
03. Winter
04. Deep Freeze
05. Winter Retreat
06. Cheater
07. Never Satisfied
08. Run Of The Mill
09. Dying To Meet You
10. Caviar And Meths
I'm the lost one chasing colors to the sun
Colors bleed but never fade