Sodom

[olivier64]

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Tu as bien compris. Mais je rajouterai le 1er album de CORONER intitulé RIP.
Bon courage pour dénicher tout ça.

[Metal B]

J'allais le dire, le premier Coroner, terrible!
Et Sodom, je suis pas fan, je suis un Thrasher pourtant, mais j'ai jamais accroché à ce groupe...
Agent Orange? Ouais, le morceau titre est bien, mais le reste...bof bof.

[Everflow]

Y'a juste leurs morceaux punk en allemand dont je suis moins amateur, mais le reste...

D'ailleurs c'est intéressant de voir qu'Hellrider a découvert et apprécié le groupe avec "City of God" et "Ausgebombt", deux titres à l'approche bien différente et provenants d'époques différentes.

[metalblasphemer]

En ce qui concerne Sodom, j'avoue que Agent Orange, Persecution Mania et Mortal Way Of Life restent mes préférés. Même si je me dis que Don't Walk Away me rappelle furieusement une chanson de Tank et que les riffs de Ausgebombt sont probablement repompés de Petula Clark.

[weik]

Pour Sodom je conseille Agent Orange biensûr mais aussi Persecution Mania, Better Off Dead (plus mainstream ), M-16, leur dernier sobrement intitulé Sodom (qui commence à dater d'ailleurs ...) et l'excellent live One Night In Bangkok

T'auras un bon aperçu avec tout ça!

[Everflow]

Leur VHS de 1988.

[Denis]

Angelripper avec la mèche "Emo"

[mike-polar]

Oui bien cool ce live!

Pour revenir au sondage, j'ai vote Persecution Mania. Album qui conserve la sauvagerie des premiers essais mais avec d'avantage de savoir faire et de de maitrise (a comprendre: c'est moins le bordel ). Agent Orange est bien sur excellent aussi mais on passe un cap de maturite en terme d'execution et du coup il y a moins le cote fuck off bestial que j'aime bien. In The Sign/Obsessed pour moi sont interessants d'un point de vue historique , a savoir l'influence qu'ils ont eu sur le black metal et le metal extreme en general mais faut pas se voiler la face, ce sont des enregistrements archi bordeliques.

Dans les 90s, j'aime Tapping the Vein qui frole le death metal par moment et Get What You Deserve pour son cote archi punk-bas-les-couilles.

L'epoque Bernemann est sympa aussi, beaucoup plus pro et melodique dans les compos mais faut avouer que sur la longueur ca tournait en rond et je peux comprendre qu'Angelripper ait voulu un renouveau (même si la methode en soi est discutable). Pour moi M-16 et Sodom sont les meilleurs albums de ce line up.

Le dernier en date est un retour a la periode Persecution, jusque dans le son et bien sur la participation de Frank Blackfire mais pour moi le bilan est mitige. Album bien trop long et inegal...mais qui comporte quand même plusieurs tueries. Le groupe se met au blast beat et ca marche plutôt bien!

Je souligne que je ne suis pas vraiment un thrasheur mais Sodom reste un groupe que j'ecoute assez souvent. Va savoir.

[Everflow]

Je souligne que je ne suis pas vraiment un thrasheur mais Sodom reste un groupe que j'ecoute assez souvent. Va savoir.

C'est un groupe qui prend racine dans le metal plus extrême que notre perception habituelle du thrash, entre leurs débuts très black metal dans l'ambiance, punk dans les influences, et certains albums ultérieurs qui lorgnent vers le death comme tu l'as mentionné.
Si on peut malgré tout leur laisser l'étiquette thrash, ça reste en tout cas aux antipodes du thrash soit fun soit technique soit posé de beaucoup de groupes américains. Je dirais donc que Sodom fait partie du kit de base du metal "evil", tous genres confondus.

[Dave]

Un connaisseur ce Mike polar !
Je suis dans l'ensemble sur la même ligne que toi mais j'ai été déçu du renvoi de Bernemann, je trouve que ça tournait vraiment pas mal avec lui, il y a quelques albums un peu faible c'est sur mais ça tenait la route quand même, on verra avec blackfire mais je pense que ça durera pas cette histoire..,,
Concernant le dernier acheté depuis un petit moment mais pas assez écouté encore
Pour donner un avis définitif mais on sent vraiment un changement radical au niveau du son et des compos oui, pour la longueur oui c'est vrai mais ça devient un peu la norme depuis des années cette affaire....

[Achille]

Malgré quelques lacunes je me lance dans le vote.

Agent Orange : un classique que j'ai eu du mal à digérer pendant longtemps. J'ai finalement fini par le trouver bien cool ! (Par contre je me demande si, aux jours d'aujourd'hui, je ne lui préfèrerais pas un autre disque... M'enfin !)
Code Red : parce que c'est le premier et que je trouve foutrement efficace.
M16 : même raison que Code Red mais avec une production plus pro.

[Everflow]

Grosse réédition de M-16 avec du live d'époque :

Almost twenty years ago to the day, celebrated thrash metal act Sodom released one of the most significant albums of its career: M-16, an offering that continues to be a challenge both musically and in terms of its content still touches upon a very sensitive issue in the history of mankind.

The theme of the iconic concept album is the Vietnam War, which was officially fought between North and South Vietnam in the 1960s, with the intervention of 500,000 US soldiers fighting and supporting anti-communist North Vietnam against Eastern Bloc detachments. Songs such as "Among The Weirdcong", "Napalm In The Morning", "Minejumper" and "Cannon Fodder" see musicians Tom Angelripper (vocals, bass), Bernemann (guitar), and Bobby Schottkowski (drums), who recorded the album at the time, hauntingly evoke through harsh metal sounds and unmistakable words images of war, brutalisation and devastation, grievances and the excesses of Western civilisation.

M-16 continued Sodom’s tradition of politically committed and socio-critical albums such as Agent Orange (1989) and Code Red (1999). No doubt: In autumn 2001, Sodom succeeded in creating a masterpiece of international metal history, now set to be re-released on December 10, remastered by Sodom drummer Toni Merkel and featuring extensive bonus material as well as attractive fan items in a premium-quality package.

M-16 (20th Anniversary Edition) will be available in three different formats (tracklisting below): as a deluxe box set, including the remastered original album plus bonus live tracks, two additional bootleg LPs with further previously unreleased live versions (recorded in Germany, Thailand, Japan), a USB stick in the shape of a rifle cartridge with all the album songs, a Sodom military ID badge, a poster featuring the cover artwork plus a 44-page booklet with rare photos and liner notes by Tom Angelripper. In the booklet, former Metal Hammer contributor Manni Eisenblätter, whose private archive contains countless unpublished Sodom photos, tells the story of the album`s creation and promotion, for which the band travelled to Thailand and South Vietnam just a few weeks before its release to get a first-hand impression of Vietnam, a country scarred by the devastation of war.

In addition to the remastered original songs, the CD media book includes two previously unreleased live tracks from 2001 and additional never-before-seen Sodom photos, which also can be on the orange vinyl version (2LP, 180g).

Looking back two decades on, M-16 continues to be a very special album to bandleader Tom Angelripper: “The recording is definitely one of Sodom’s classics, not least because of its consistent thematic concept. It was also our last collaboration with producer Harris Johns, finalising an important era for the band. I'm very happy that ‘M-16’ will now be re-released as a ‘20th Anniversary Edition’ with new versions and lots of attention to detail.”

Pre-order the album here. Listen the new single “Remember The Fallen” (Live Wacken 2001) here, and below.

Tracklisting:

CD

"Among The Weirdcong"
"I Am The War"
"Napalm In The Morning"
"Minejumper"
"Genocide"
"Little Boy"
"M-16"
"Lead Injection"
"Cannon Fodder"
"Marines"
"Surfin' Bird"
"Remember The Fallen" (Live Wacken 2001, previously unreleased)
"Blasphemer" (Live Wacken 2001, previously unreleased)

LP

LP1, Side A:
"Among The Weirdcong"
"I Am the War"
"Napalm In The Morning"

LP1, Side B:
"Minejumper"
"Genocide"
"Little Boy"

LP2, Side A:
"M-16"
"Lead Injection"
"Cannon Fodder"

LP2, Side B:
"Marines"
"Surfin' Bird"
"Remember the Fallen" (Live Wacken 2001, previously unreleased)
"Blasphemer" (Live Wacken 2001, previously unreleased)

Box

LP1, Side A:
"Among The Weirdcong"
"I Am The War"
"Napalm In The Morning"

LP1, Side B:
"Minejumper"
"Genocide"
"Little Boy"

LP2, Side A:
"M-16"
"Lead Injection"
"Cannon Fodder"

LP2, Side B:
"Marines"
"Surfin' Bird"
"Remember The Fallen" (Live Wacken 2001, previously unreleased)
"Blaspheme"r (Live Wacken 2001, previously unreleased)

Bootleg LP1, Side A: Live Wacken 2001 (previously unreleased):
"Agent Orange"
"Code Red"
"Der Wachturm"
"M-16"

Bootleg LP1, Side B: Live Tokyo 2002 (previously unreleased):
"Among The Weirdcong"
"The Vice Of Killing"
"Eat Me"

Bootleg LP2, Side A: Live Bang Your Head 2003 (previously unreleased):
"The Saw Is the Law"
"Outbreak Of Evil"
"Bombenhagel"

Bootleg LP2, Side B: Live Bangkok 2002:
"I Am The War"
"Masquerade In Blood"
"Sodomized"

[Everflow]

[Everflow]

Leur VHS de 1994, avec Andy Brings à la guitare. Pas mon époque préférée, mais ça fait le job.
La fin du concert est drôle et débridée avec plein de jams/reprises avec les mecs de Rage, Kreator, Violent Force... Niveau pains ça devient un peu la boulangerie mais bon rien de très étonnant

06 - 0:16:23 - Abuse
07 - 0:18:15 - Remember The Fallen
08 - 0:23:07 - An Eye For An Eye
10 - 0:26:38 - Tired and Red
11 - 0:32:06 - Eat Me
12 - 0:36:55 - Die Stumme Ursel
13 - 0:40:35 - Sodomized
14 - 0:43:20 - Gomorrah
15 - 0:45:46 - Blasphemer (With Grave Violator)
16 - 0:49:37 - One Step over the Line
17 - 0:53:15 - Freaks of Nature
18 - 0:56:10 - Aber Bitte mit Sahne (Udo Jürgens Cover)
19 - 1:04:10 - Silence Is Consent
20 - 1:07:10 - Wachturm
21 - 1:10:26 - Erwachet!
22 - 1:11:57 - Stalinorgel
23 - 1:13:40 - Bombenhagel (With Peavy)
24 - 1:19:00 - Iron Fist (Motörhead Cover With Frank, Andreas & Ventor)
25 - 1:23:10 - Shellshock (Tank cover With Peavy)
26 - 1:26:29 - Blitzkrieg Bop (Ramones Cover With Mille Petrozza)
27 - 1:28:38 - Dead City (Violent Force Cover With Lemmy & Frank)
28 - 1:34:00 - The Trooper (Iron Maiden Cover With Peavy, Mille & Efthi)
29 - 1:38:40 - Ace of Spades (Motörhead Cover with Lemmy)
30 - 1:41:15 - Highway to Hell (AC/DC Cover With Frank, Ventor & Thorsten Bergmann)

[Everflow]

Concert d'un line-up assez oublié du groupe :

01 - 00:00:00 - An Eye for An Eye
02 - 00:04:50 - Nuclear Winter
03 - 00:10:45 - Tired and Red
04 - 00:16:25 - Iron Fist (Motorhead Cover)
05 - 00:21:42 - Remember the Fallen
06 - 00:29:35 - Christ Passion
07 - 00:36:12 - The Saw Is the Law
08 - 00:41:00 - Exhibition Bout
09 - 00:45:25 - Shellfire Defence
10 - 00:49:10 - Conjuration
11 - 00:53:14 - Incest
12 - 00:57:45 - Stalionrcel
13 - 01:02:55 - Outbreak of Evil
14 - 01:06:56 - Ausgebombt

Recorded Live at Academic Stadium, Sofia, Bulgaria on September 15, 1991.

Line-up:

Bass, Vocals – Tom Angelripper
Drums – Chris Witchhunter
Guitars – Michael Hoffmann

[Everflow]

Tapping the Vein est réédité en version deluxe avec un remaster, un remix, et 3 concerts!
Extrait du CD remixé ci-dessous.

32 years is a long time in anyone's book. Way too long, according to SODOM fans worldwide. But if you ask SODOM bassist/vocalist Thomas "Angelripper" Such and Andy Brings, those 32 years since the original release of SODOM's sixth album "Tapping The Vein" went by in the blink of an eye. With prices for the original vinyl LP skyrocketing in the collectors' world and heated online fan discussions whether the re-release will ever see the light of day, the time has finally come to breathe new life into what appears to be everybody's favorite album by SODOM, alongside "Agent Orange" and "Persecution Mania".

"At the time it was just another album for us," says Angelripper, "but the Sodomaniacs all over the world made it a cult classic. It's just sad that Chris Witchhunter is not here anymore to celebrate with us." Guitar player Andy Brings, who was 20 years old and still in school when the joined the band in 1991, who wrote and recorded his first-ever album with SODOM, adds: "Bands don't determine what becomes a cult, the fans do. It just happened, and we are very proud of it. 18-year-olds come up to me these days and tell me how much they love that album."

Not only was "Tapping The Vein" the last album with original drummer Chris Witchhunter hitting the skins more fiercely than ever before, but it was also a brutal statement from one of the originators of thrash metal, in a time when many bands strayed from their original paths, became too sanitized or caved in to newer trends. SODOM went in the opposite direction and put out what many fans call "SODOM's death metal album", although no one in the band actually listened to death metal at the time.

Angelripper says: "We just did what we did, not paying attention to what was happening around us. Andy joined the band and we just hammered out these killer songs in no time. It all happened very fast. There were no distractions, just the music."

Brings adds: "'Tapping The Vein' is the result of pure inspiration. I was young, hungry and full of energy and had ideas and that resonated perfectly with Tom and Chris, wanting to show everybody who's really in charge of thrash metal, in an era where not many bands stayed true to their original vision."

So here it is. SODOM's "blue album" revisited (like any true classic, it can be referred to by only mentioning the color of the artwork, just ask METALLICA, WEEZER and THE BEATLES),and the package could not be more complete. With the original album remastered, it also features a complete remixed version done by Andy Brings with some additional alternative takes of three album tracks, plus three live concerts: Tokyo 1992, Düsseldorf 1992 and Cologne 1992 (Chris Witchhunter's last show with SODOM) in the super deluxe edition.

Andy says: "We fought and worked very hard for this re-release, I can only hope that it was worth the wait, but I'm pretty sure it will fill every Sodomaniac's heart with joy."

Tom adds: "The fans mean everything to us, and this is really just for them. Working on 'Tapping The Vein' again brought back so many memories, both good and bad, but this is who we were 32 years ago. An amazing trip."

"Tapping The Vein" is the story of youth, life, death, friendship and loyalty. It's also testament to a time in your life, when everything was new and exciting, and bands and their music was all you had. When metal was pure, raw and wild. You thought that time would never come back. Until now.

SODOM's deluxe, expanded reissue of "Tapping The Vein" is available in these formats:

* Super deluxe "blood-filled vinyl" edition. Triple LP, double CD deluxe 24-page bookpack (limited to 100 copies via the Noise Records store only)
* Deluxe triple LP red-and-black swirl vinyl and double CD deluxe 24-page bookpack.
* Double, gatefold transparent red vinyl.
* Triple CD digisleeve with 24-page booklet

Pre-orders of the deluxe bookpack edition will come with a limited-edition reproduction 1992 gig poster signed by Tom Angelripper and Andy Brings from the SODOM and Noise Records stores, while stocks last.

Tapping The Vein (2024 Remaster) (Disc 1)
"Body Parts"
"Skinned Alive"
"One Step Over The Line"
"Deadline"
"Bullet In The Head"
"The Crippler"
"Wachturm"
"Tapping The Vein"
"Back To War"
"Hunting Season"
"Reincarnation"

Tapping The Vein (2024 Redux) (Disc 2) Previously Unreleased
"Body Parts"
"Skinned Alive"
"One Step Over The Line"
"Deadline"
"Bullet In The Head"
"The Crippler"
"Wachturm"
"Tapping The Vein"
"Back To War"
"Hunting Season"
"Reincarnation"

Live In Toyko 1992 (Disc 3) Previously Unreleased
"Sodomy & Lust"
"An Eye For An Eye"
"One Step Over The Line"
"Deadline"
"Agent Orange"
"Skinned Alive"
"Shellfire Defense"
"The Crippler"
"Bullet In The Head"
"Wachturm"
"Body Parts"
"The Kids Wanna Rock"
"Body Parts" (Alt. Remix Version)
"Wachturm" (Alt. Remix Version)
"Reincarnation" (Alt. Remix Version)

Live In Düsseldorf 1992 (Disc 4) Previously Unreleased
"Sodomy & Lust"
"An Eye For An Eye"
"Skinned Alive"
"One Step Over The Line"
"Exhibition Bout"
"Ausgebombt"
"Remember The Fallen"
"The Saw Is The Law"
"Wachturm"
"Bombenhagel"

Live In Cologne 1992 The Final Witchhunt (Disc 5) Previously Unreleased
"Sodomy & Lust"
"An Eye For An Eye"
"Agent Orange"
"Skinned Alive"
"Better Off Dead"
"Ausgebombt"
"One Step Over The Line"
"The Crippler"
"Bullet In The Head"
"Wachturm"
"Bombenhagel"

[Everflow]

[Gabalgabow]

J'ai voté pour:
Persecution Mania
Agent Orange

Quand au 3ème album favoris, c'est plus compliqué...

[Tailgunner]

Pareil, mais avec M16 en numéro 3 !

[Everflow]

[Everflow]

01 - 00:00 - Sodomy & Lust
02 - 04:51 - An Eye For An Eye
03 - 08:25 - Agent Orange
04 - 13:47 - Skinned Alive
05 - 16:17 - Better Off Dead
06 - 19:49 - Ausgebombt
07 - 22:50 - One Step Over The Line
08 - 27:25 - The Crippler
09 - 31:43 - Bullet In The Head
10 - 34:39 - Wachturm
11 - 38:00 - Bombenhagel

Last show with Chris Witchhunter.

Recorded Live at Music Hall, Cologne, Germany on December 28, 1992.



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