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Vu ce qui suit, c'est pour dans pas longtemps à mon avis :)

Christina Fuoco of The Flint Journal recently conducted an interview with SOULFLY/ex-SEPULTURA frontman Max Cavalera. A few excerpts from the chat follow:

On the possibility of a SEPULTURA reunion with him on vocals:

"There's nothing official but, yeah, I would say today it is much more real than a couple of years ago."


On his one-off August jam session with his brother Igor (ex-SEPULTURA drummer) in Tempe, Arizona:

"Igor called and said he wanted to be here ... I couldn't help it but come and ask him to jam. We've been jamming our whole life. We started the band together. It was such a treat to the fans. I saw the faces in the crowd, they were tripping out. And, of course, the (reaction) on the Internet was overwhelming. I kind of forgot how much controversy or whatever these things bring. I was just happy to see him and talk to him and jam with him. Everywhere I go, people ask about that."

On SEPULTURA's breakup:

"It was a strange time. The band [SEPULTURA] was getting kind of popular, at the same time when you get popular, a lot of problems start. One thing goes with the other. So inside the band there was a lot of fighting. We were young, too. I partially blame myself a little bit. I think the right thing would have been to take two years off and just go away from the whole thing and maybe the band would have never even split up if we had done that. But we didn't do that."

"After Dana's [stepson Dana Wells] death, we forced (ourselves) to go on tour. Nobody wanted to be on tour. That resulted in too much tension, and I ended up leaving.

"But something really cool came out of it — SOULFLY, which I love. So it's like, 'Yeah, you know, it was meant to be.' I was very disappointed and sad at first but SOULFLY came to answer a lot of my questions. SOULFLY did fill a big void in my life. It is filling it now and forever. I think I'll be grateful to SOULFLY. It saved me from stopping playing music. It's kind of bad and good at the same time."

On SOULFLY's support band INCITE, which features Cavalera's stepson, Richie:

"He's young and struggling. I'm supporting but that's about the break I gave him. I tell him, 'You're not coming on the bus. You have to sleep in the van and pay your dues.'"[/b]
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De plus en plus explicites les appels du pied de Max...
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A photo of brothers and former SEPULTURA bandmates Max (guitar, vocals) and Igor Cavalera (drums) — reunited for the first time in 10 years at the 10th annual D-Low Memorial Festival on August 17, 2006 at the Marquee Theatre in Tempe, AZ — has been posted online at SoulflyWeb.com. As previously reported, Igor came out and joined headliners SOULFLY (featuring Max on guitar/vocals) for renditions of the SEPULTURA classics "Attitude" and "Roots Bloody Roots".
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Allez hop hop une reformation et une tournée des fests avec Wacken en apothéose ! :D
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C'est le genre de reformation qui m'intéresserait, à condition que ce soit pour créer de nouvelles choses (comprendre: sortir de nouveaux albums) :bang:
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Si c'est pour refaire du Roots alors sans moi :thrash:
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Mc Brain a écrit :C'est le genre de reformation qui m'intéresserait, à condition que ce soit pour créer de nouvelles choses (comprendre: sortir de nouveaux albums) :bang:
Ah ben moi c'est le contraire en premier :D
Pour qu'ils nous atomisent en live ! Ils referont jamais un "Arise" m'est avis :/
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Ganash a écrit :Si c'est pour refaire du Roots alors sans moi :thrash:
Idem. Et encore, "Roots" n'était que le début de la chute. Ce qui a suivi a été pire. Y compris chez Max.
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Moi c'est pire que ça , le début de la chute c'est Chaos AD...
C'est le début du sepultura en mode jump yo ...
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J'ai jamais trouvé que Chaos AD soit bien jumpy yo perso... groovy ouais. Mais le groupe avait encore une vraie personnalité et j'aime toujours ce disque :rock:

Bon, un retour à Arise voire Beneath The Remains ne me déplairait pas non plus... :D
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jamais compris le rapprochement entre le début de la période yo jump et Chaos AD? :/ Y en a même qui parlent de début neo, n'importe quoi! Ca reste du putain de thrash death un peu plus lourd et mid tempo avec ça et là quelques touches tribales
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Rien à faire, apres Arise , j'ai trouvé ça tres (trop ) léger...

Sepultura a commencer à américaniser (avec ses amis Machine Head , Pantera) sa musique a partir de là....
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Chaos AD c'est une vraie tuerie, c'est pas parce qu'il y a 1 ou deux titres tribaux dessus (et ncore ils sont bons donc on va pas se plaindre). A côté de ça y'a des putains de morceaux qui décollent les tâches des slips à l'endroit comme à l'envers que même Skip il peut pas le faire.

Et pis quand on lâche un titre comme Biotech ça ne peut être qu'une bonne galette.

ps : j'adore la reprise de New Model Army :bang: :bang: :bang:
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Voici les premieres session de la reformation:

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Stanley_Gun a écrit :Moi c'est pire que ça , le début de la chute c'est Chaos AD...
C'est le début du sepultura en mode jump yo ...
Si cet album est du jump, alors je suis fan du jump sans le savoir !
Yo jump jump Territory !
Yo yo Poilicaaaaaaaa jump !
Slave jump new yo world !
:hum: :lol:
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Rhhhaaaaaaa mais!!!!!!!!!!

Lisez-les en entier MES PHRASES!!!! J'ai écrit le DEBUT du yo jump!!!!
Avouez quand même que l'album se démarque terriblement du précédant et oriente le groupe vers une voie plus "hardcore" que ne l'était Arise!!!

Arise, une époque où Max Cavalera ne jouait pas avec une guitare à 3 cordes....
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@stanley_gun : 3 cordes, t'exageres je dirais plutôt quatre

La période Jump pour moi a commencé avec roots bloody roots

Arise est un album grandiose, un peu moins culte que beneath the remains mais indispensable.
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Chaos AD est tout simplement excellent au même titre qu' Arise et Beneath :diable:
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A Wacken 2007 et je me mets à chialer!!! :)
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Pour voir d'autres photos des retrouvailles Max/Igor :

:pointer: http://revistatrip.uol.com.br/conteudo. ... a_id=23997
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Andreas Kisser affirme qu'il n'y aura pas de reformation en 2007, mais il n'écarte pas totalement la possibilité non plus...


Metal Hammer: In January 2006 Igor Cavalera [drums] denied the rumors that he was going to leave the band. In June he made his departure official because he wanted to stay more time in Brazil and take care of his family. Was this the real reason he left SEPULTURA?

Andreas: It's hard for me to say, because he should answer this question. From our point of view, it was okay that he didn't want to leave the country to tour. But we needed a drummer, because we had a new album out. When Max left the band ten years ago it was a shock to us, because we had to rebuild our whole career. We did not only lose Max, we lost everything with him — the manager and the confidence of the record label. It took a while to renew everything, but we did it. With Igor we talked for the last two or three years. He was tired being on the road and was also separating from his wife, whom he has three kids with and was living together with for the last 15 years. It is difficult for every man to deal with that. At the same time he got a new wife and a new baby was born, so he decided to stay in Brazil. This was the reason he left the band and we were prepared that this would happen. Our intention was really to keep him in the band and play the "Dante XXI" tour with him. Then, at the end of the cycle he would have been able to decide what to do. But he had different plans and needed to leave SEPULTURA to start something new.

Metal Hammer: Igor recently got in contact with his brother Max again, and he is now talking about touring again in several interviews. Did he lie to you and to the fans?

Andreas: The Cavaleras are very difficult. (laughs) I cannot say if Igor has lied. I think he is very confused. I can feel that, because I see what stuff he is saying in the press. First of all, Max never wanted to talk to us again and now he is talking about a reunion. The stuff he says is very contradictory. But what can I say? We keep going. We will go on tour in the U.S. with SWORN ENEMY in November and then we will hopefully be on tour with KREATOR in Europe in February of 2007. We always chose not to be a part of this type of discussion in the press, because it turns out to be the same as ten years ago when Max left SEPULTURA. He was saying so many different things to different magazines and we told our side of the story just once. The Cavaleras can say whatever they want, but this reunion shit is really disturbing, because it has been going on now for six or seven months. The rumors started when Max left the band in 1996 and are getting stronger these days because Igor left.

Metal Hammer: Igor also shared the stage with his brother at the D-Low Memorial Festival on August 17, 2006 at the Marquee Theatre in Tempe, Arizona when they played "Attitude" and "Roots" together.

Andreas: I think it is great that they are talking to each other again. The situation was ridiculous for him and Max. But just because they are in touch with each other again is no reason for me to play with them again.

Metal Hammer: Why is Max talking about the SEPULTURA reunion all the time these days?

Andreas: I have no idea, man. He is forcing the situation, but that is not the way to do it. He should really approach it a little bit more professionally. First of all, we all have to talk to each other again and then we can try to do something good and decent for the fans. So far there is nothing going on regarding a reunion — these are all rumors. We wanted to stay quiet about this, but it is starting to hurt the work me, Paulo [Xisto], Derrick [Green] and Jean [Dolabella] are doing. This is the reason why I'm giving this interview. People are more interested in a possible reunion than in our upcoming "Dante XXI" tour. I just wanted to make clear to our fans that there is no reunion going on next year. That's for sure. With SEPULTURA it was always like that: you will get our answer on stage. I can say thousands of words here today to you, but what counts happens on stage. It is important for us to go out and play live and after that people can judge for themselves.

Metal Hammer: What about the statement from Igor that you have to give the name, the trademark SEPULTURA, back after you finish the "Dante XXI" tour, because you do not have the rights to use it?

Andreas: I don't know what he is talking about. He left the band and neither he nor Max have any rights to the name. Max gets his royalties for all the records he played on, that's it. We did not kick Igor out. We wanted to keep him and finish the cycle. The name SEPULTURA is with us — me Paulo and Derrick — and Igor knows that. Anyone who says anything different is lying.

Metal Hammer: It sounds like you have a disturbed relationship with Igor these days. Or how would you describe it?

Andreas: It is fine, we still talk. Last week it was the birthday of my third kid and his children came to party with us. Me and Igor have a very long relationship that includes family and friendship. We don't talk as much as we used to, but there are no hard feelings. There is no fight going on.

Metal Hammer: And between you and Max?

Andreas: The last time I talked to him was in London, when we did the last show for the "Roots" tour. This was in December 1996. I have seen SOULFLY twice — once in Los Angeles, six or seven years ago and this year in New York. I was just there to see the gig, we did not talk. Unfortunately me and Max have no connection. We also never had the chance to play together on the road with SOULFLY and SEPULTURA, so there was no conversation within the last ten years.

Metal Hammer: You say that there definetely will be no reunion next year. What if the Cavalera brothers just do it?

Andreas: Well, then this won't be a reunion. (laughs)

Metal Hammer: They say that SEPULTURA nowadays with you, Derrick, Paulo and Jean is not SEPULTURA.

Andreas: They can say whatever they want. They are free to have their own opinion, but I don't care what they think about the band I play in these days. SEPULTURA is what we are today, we have the support of thousands of fans. We still represent the message of SEPULTURA and keep our integrity and our spirit. This is the reason why we are still here. In the end we still love what we are doing and that is what matters.

Metal Hammer: Aren't you just pissed that Igor and Max did not ask you to reunite with them yet?

Andreas: No. I don't see a reunion as a step forward. People act like nothing happened after 1996 — that is stupid. If we really decide to play together again in future, it should be a chance to start something new. Max had experiences with SOULFLY, we had ours with SEPULTURA. This should be a positive basis to create something positive and not only to copy the "Roots" tour like nothing happened [in the last 10 years]. I can see it happening soon, but we have to talk to each other first. We did the best stuff in our career when we discussed ideas and talked to each other. We did crazy stuff and always had a good time. That is the way it should be. I don't wanna be a slave to a name, like Max and Igor are trying to be. That is kind of weak. I'm not pissed — they can do whatever they want — but they shouldn't stand in our way. We respected that they left SEPULTURA, now they should give some respect back that we still are in the band.

Metal Hammer: Max and Igor are doing good promotion for a possible reunion, because when it happens there will be loads of money involved — that both of them want to have.

Andreas: Don't get me wrong, I want to have the money, too. But to come to a state like that the situation has to be cleared up. There are a lot of people and egos involved, [and] that will take time. This is what all reunions have in common. Take BLACK SABBATH, MÖTLEY CRÜE or ANTHRAX: They all had to overcome difficulties before they could get back together again. But we haven't even started talking, so there is nothing going on right now.

Metal Hammer: To make this clear: If the conditions were acceptable, you wouldn't say no to a SEPULTURA reunion?

Andreas: It must be something different. I don't want to put the band back together again, go on stage and collect my paycheck. That is one of the reasons I don't see this happening within the next year. People would be disappointed, because it would be crap. If we do it the right way, have everybody involved and talk to each other, it would be possible — but not that soon. It will take at least a year to prepare a big thing like this.

Metal Hammer: Who would manage the band? Gloria [Cavalera, Max's wife/manager] was one of the reasons why Max left SEPULTURA.

Andreas: Yeah, that is right, and she is still around. That is the point — we need to start talking again and have a conversation like grown-up people.

Metal Hammer: It is also direspectful to the work you did with Derrick. He is nearly as long in the band as Max.

Andreas: This is another side of the story. We cannot say, "Thanks a lot, see you later" to Derrick. He is a part of it and one of the reasons why we are still strong today. He came into the band, brought his talent and ideas and we created something new together. We have to be careful not to destroy what we built. It is direspectful, not only to him, also to our fans all around the globe.

Metal Hammer: Does Derrick have the same standing for the fans like Max had years ago?

Andreas: That is difficult to compare, because the time is different. Ten years ago the world was different, and not only in the metal scene. Both of them, Derrick and Max, created a style around the SEPULTURA music. That makes the two very special compared to other metal singers.

Metal Hammer: You stated that the rumors affect your work these days. Did you talk about the situation within the band?

Andreas: Of course, the stuff is on the Internet, and we talked about it. But we try to stay away from this media panic. There is nothing official that says "SEPULTURA reunites again." All is based on rumors. SEPULTURA today is Andreas Kisser, Paulo Xisto, Derrick Green and Jean Dolabella. We want to tour as much as we can in the next year and if we start talking again, there might be something possible for 2008 or 2009. Now it seems to be a dream, nothing real. But it is possible, because we are all still alive. But not now and not next year.

Metal Hammer: Could you also think about recording a new record with Igor, Max and Paulo?

Andreas: I don't know. Only time will tell.
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Roots il est pas Bien ? Il est toujours mieux que Morbid Visions et Bestal Devastation...

C'est vrai que les premier Soulfly était pas top tout comme les dernier Sepultura avec Derryck Greene (je me plante pas sur le nom ?)

Mais putain ecouté Dark Age le dernier Soulfly et Dante XXI c'est deux peti de disques !

Rien que de voir en live Max et Igor sur roots Bloody Roots ou alors Inner Self :rock:
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Max et Igor se sont remis à travailler ensemble sur un nouveau projet :
SEPULTURA founding members and brothers Max and Igor Cavalera have confirmed that they are collaborating on new music for the first time in more than 10 years. According to reports, the material will be released as a completely new project, separate from Max's work in SOULFLY.

Jose Mangin of Sirius Satellite Radio's Hard Attack just returned from Phoenix, Arizona where he visited Max at his home and got a chance to hear some of the music that has been written for this new band.

The material, which has been described by Mangin as "sick"-sounding, may include guest appearances by members of NAPALM DEATH and SOULFLY guitarist Marc Rizzo, although this has not yet been confirmed.
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Ah tiens... A suivre ce truc, ça peut bien le faire ! :bang: :bang:
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Yeah je veux un deuxième Arise pour 2008 :rock:
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