Black Sabbath : la fin

Message par **Everflow** » 21 juil. 2010, 23:32

Bill Ward révèle dans cette longue interview qu'il existe en fait pas mal de nouveau matériel écrit par le groupe mais qui n'a pour l'instant jamais été enregistré.
Et on comprend qu'il est tout à fait tenté par le fait de sortir un album, et qu'il attend un signe des autres.

http://www.sonicexcess.com/BILL_WARD_BL ... rview.html

Sonic Excess: BLACK SABBATH wrote new material, but nothing came of it. Will those recordings ever see the light of day, and if not, can you tell us SABBATH-heads what SABBATH album it's comparable to?

Ward: Well, it is true that there is a lot of material written and stored away in a very safe place. I don't know what SABBATH album it would be comparable to. We did all these jams in the spring, I think it was seven years ago. The songs have some brilliant riffs, obviously from Tony [Iommi, guitar], and my drumming has changed a little bit. My approach and Geezer's [Butler, bass] approach was a bit different in supporting Tony, I thought. Oz [Ozzy Osbourne, vocals] was cutting across with some really nice things as well. I think it was more mature, because we are more mature, even though we are kids at heart. I don't think I can compare it to any SABBATH album, but it sounded really, really, strong.

Sonic Excess: Why was it never released?

Ward: Politics. (laughs)

Sonic Excess: Well, I don't want to pry to much then, but do you think the songs will ever see the light of day?

Ward: I think the songs that we have, and there were quite a lot of them, they ought to [be released]. They deserve to see the light of day, but whether they will or not, I don't know. It would be very sad not to let them see the light of day, because there are some really good foundations and grooves, some real nice chops. It was our band playing. To me, in my opinion, they're perfectly great enough to make another BLACK SABBATH album. The music is very current. It's us, 40 years later slamming it out, ya know?

Sonic Excess: After the tragic death of Ronnie James Dio, the remaining members of HEAVEN & HELL will perform the Dio tribute show and won't carry on after that. Tony Iommi said, in a British newspaper, that there would be discussions between he and Geezer Butler about BLACK SABBATH. Can you give us any insight?

Ward: The only thing I know, and I have talked with Tony... Well, the only person I haven't spoken with is Geezer, but that is because he prefers e-mail to the telephone, and Ozzy called me yesterday. I think the statements have been made into a little bit of a cake. I saw the statements only last night on BLABBERMOUTH.NET, when I got home from the studio. Where Ozzy's at, with wanting to tour with BLACK SABBATH is that Ozzy has been in his place for a long time and says, "I'm never going to say never." I have the same attitude. My quotes would be, "I never want to say never." I'm in the same place. Tony has a completely open mind to the possibility of touring with SABBATH again. I think what's happening is that some people have hooked into that and written a story out of it. I think realistically, right now, I can't see where it would be a possibility, with Ozzy on tour for the next 18 months and having a new record out that's great. I've got a new record, and I know that Tony has other things he wants to do musically, and Geezer also. We might all agree to it, but when it would happen, I just don't know. Other than those few comments, I just don't know about a SABBATH tour anywhere near in the future. Tony has already stated that he doesn't want to talk about it until he finishes that concert for Ronnie in London. It would be great, but I don't know where any of it sits right now. It's like the press has gotten it and is kindling the fire before anything has been said. I talk to Ozzy all the time, and he hasn't mentioned shit to me about SABBATH.

Message par **Everflow** » 05 août 2010, 23:11

Ozzy pousse encore et dit qu'il est très possible que cela arrive :

Ozzy Osbourne visited the KNAC.COM studios this afternoon (Wednesday, August 4) to chat with Junkman about Ozzfest, Osbourne's new album ("Scream") and everything else going on in Ozzy-land.

When asked about his future plans, Ozzy remarked he wanted to write another book and possibly call it "I'm Still Ozzy". He also said he'd like to make a movie based on his current book, "I Am Ozzy", and joked that actor Denzel Washington could play him. He then added, "It's very, very possible that the original SABBATH [members] are gonna finally [get together and] do the ultimate SABBATH album. And we're gonna do a tour, I think. When, I don't know. I spoke to Bill Ward [original SABBATH drummer] yesterday, and we both say we never say 'never' anymore."

Nathagnôle · Message par **Nathagnôle** » 06 août 2010, 09:58

"never say die"????

Message par **Everflow** » 10 août 2010, 23:53

C'est ce qu'il dit, mais il affirme que ça n'arrivera pas avant un an ou deux, le temps de finir la promo et tournée de son nouvel album solo. Le temps de mettre d'accord tous les managers et les avocats?

Legendary heavy metal singer Ozzy Osbourne told Kevin O'Hare of The Republican that he is considering reuniting with the other members of BLACK SABBATH's original lineup to record a brand new studio album. However, "It's not going to happen for at least a year or two because I've got my tour and an album to do," Ozzy said. "But it's not added to the realms of never ever."

He continued, "I would be a liar if I said to you I wouldn't want to do the ultimate BLACK SABBATH album...

"We never set down when we were kids and went like, 'This is going to be looked upon when we're (expletive) 60 as a milestone in music.' That was not our intention. But it kind of happened.

"I always wanted to be a Beatle and people said, 'Well, BLACK SABBATH is a heavy metal version of THE BEATLES.'

"But I would love to do, absolutely love to do a really great monumental BLACK SABBATH album. Whether we can, I don't know.

"I spoke to Tony Iommi [SABBATH guitarist] about three weeks ago, I spoke to Geezer [Butler, SABBATH bassist] about a week ago, I speak to Bill Ward [SABBATH drummer] all the time. But I won't do it without the other three...

"BLACK SABBATH is four guys as far as I'm concerned. We all depend on each other."

houyoux hervé · Message par **houyoux hervé** » 13 août 2010, 14:02

BLACK SABBATH se reformera dans un an ou deux,Ozzy Osbourne souhaite d'abord se consacrer à sa tournée et un autre album solo. Il précise qu'il adore l'idée de créer "l'ultime album du Sabbath".

Le G@SP · Message par **Le G@SP** » 13 août 2010, 14:15

http://defender.metal-live.com/viewtopi ... 65#p628965

Chacal · Message par **Chacal** » 13 août 2010, 14:15

Ca me manquait tiens

féfé · Message par **féfé** » 13 août 2010, 14:18

Hervé le retour

Message par **Everflow** » 16 août 2010, 00:18

Un p'tit coup de fusion au passage.

Bill Ward confirme ses intentions (album et longue tournée) :

Goldmine: What's next for BLACK SABBATH?

Ward: Well, everybody's off working, you know. I've been talking to Tony (Iommi) in recent months so … and I was with him and Glenn (Hughes) at the funeral for Ron (Ronnie James Dio). And I think Terry (Geezer) … Terry is just trying to get past the death of Ronnie and where it's gonna go next. Then Ozzy's embarking on a huge tour. He's going out on the road for quite a considerable amount of time. But I speak to him all the time.

Goldmine: What do you think about Ozzy's new album, "Scream", by the way?

Ward: What I like about his new album, is I like where his voice is at. His voice is as clear as a bell. He's coming through. he has conviction. and he's very clear and he's very precise on everything. His voice is really commanding throughout all the tracks. I think it's very good myself. But as far as SABBATH, BLACK SABBATH, as the original band. I'm not aware of any plans or anything but at the same time, I know we're all conversing to each other. I'm not aware of any walls or bad vibes with anybody. I always have the hope that if everything is okay and everything is amicable then we can tour again. I would love to do that, as long as everything's in order with me. I'd love to move ahead, not only tour but I'd love to make a new record as well, another SABBATH record. That, to me, would be the ultimate. But I would also love to do a longer tour. The last tour we did was nice, it lasted about three and a half months. But the thing is we were so settled in — and you got to get your joints back together and your muscles, all you have to do to get yourself really well-tuned — by the time we were half way between the last tour I felt really well-tuned and then in no time at all we had to stop, and I was just like, "Fuck!' Let's take this around the world, man. This is great." We had to stop and that was a bit of a pisser. That was the only problem. It takes quite a while to take a 62-year old body and get it to be ready to play in BLACK SABBATH. And me and Ozzy, we are really physical onstage, so we really have to be in shape. And all the reunion dates, as far as playing is concerned, had been beautiful. I thoroughly enjoyed myself, onstage it was just the best. I had a really good time. A really good time.

Bib · Message par **Bib** » 16 août 2010, 08:17

Et Ozzy redevient le meilleur chanteur du monde !

Dave · Message par **Dave** » 16 août 2010, 12:18

faut voir ce que le père Ozzy donnera niveau chant dans 2 ans... ça risque de pas être grandiose...

Le G@SP · Message par **Le G@SP** » 16 août 2010, 12:52

pas la peine d'attendre 2 ans pour en arriver à cette conclusion

STEELER · Message par **STEELER** » 16 août 2010, 15:57

Au moins, il y aura la guitare plombée du Grand Iommi !

Message par **Everflow** » 16 août 2010, 19:38

Bib a écrit :Et Ozzy redevient le meilleur chanteur du monde !

huhu c'est clair qu'il y a de quoi halluciner sur les propos de Ward à ce sujet, soit c'est du discours marketing, soit il est sourd, soit il n'est toujours pas au courant de ce qui existe en studio (mais là ça serait énorme de naïveté

).

Message par **Everflow** » 17 août 2010, 23:49

A son tour, Geezer ne serait pas contre une reformation avec Ozzy, malgré ce qu'il a dit à son sujet ces dernières années. Ne manque plus que l'avis d'Iommi, et les promoteurs et managers feront sans doute le reste...

http://www.hellbound.ca/2010/08/geezer- ... interview/

Hellbound.ca: What do you think of the chances are of BLACK SABBATH ever playing again with Ozzy?

Geezer: I don't know. You know it would be nice to finish the whole thing off with one last tour, I suppose. We're all getting a bit old now, so time is running out. It would be nice. I wouldn't say no!

Laex · Message par **Laex** » 18 août 2010, 17:31

Mouais je sais pas trop comment prendre l'ambition de cette reformation...
Peut-être faire oublier la Voix du Metal? Sitôt parti on le remplace avec un artiste des plus controversé (même si il a une légitimité dans Black Sab évidemment)... ça sent le marketing à donf tout ça... mouais.
En tout cas quelque chose bouge (encore).

Message par **Everflow** » 23 août 2010, 00:28

Ozzy dit que sa vie serait complète si Black Sabbath sortait un dernier album :

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbu ... 95431.html

On the possibility of a reunion with fellow original BLACK SABBATH members Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Bill Ward:

"We're talking and that's a good sign. We're not at war with each other ... I was speaking to Bill Ward last night. I've got to speak to the other two. But it was in the last attempt where we just all met without saying anything to each other (after) quite a few years. I'm trying to get things done right, talking at least. I can't give any dates, 'cause I don't know anything. I don't know whether they want to do it with me, or whatever, but I'm starting to feel (things) ease up for it. To be honest with you, I would love to do a killer BLACK SABBATH album. It would make my life, my whole thing, round up perfectly for me."

sam 999 · Message par **sam 999** » 23 août 2010, 12:03

Ouais, et de manière plus réaliste ça lui ferait un bon paquet de maille en plus surtout haha.

Je me demande bien ce que ça pourrait donner. Pas sûr que ce soit une idée merveilleuse, y a déjà de quoi faire avec les vieux Black Sab' sur lesquels Ozzy chante, mais bon, ce serait intéresser de jeter une oreille dessus.

Pas écouté ce qu'il fait de son côté depuis un bail, ça donne quoi niveau voix ? Elle est pas trop trafiquée en studio ?

Chacal · Message par **Chacal** » 23 août 2010, 12:05

Bah vu comme il est trafiqué lui tout court, sa voix.. bon ben voilà...

Et j'en parle pas sur scène hein??

sam 999 · Message par **sam 999** » 23 août 2010, 12:07

Haha génial. Ça promet, s'ils font un album et une tournée, et qu'Ozzy massacre les vieux titres

Chacal · Message par **Chacal** » 23 août 2010, 12:10

Ca c'est plus que probable...

Fonz · Message par **Fonz** » 23 août 2010, 16:04

déception...

Holy Cross · Message par **Holy Cross** » 23 août 2010, 16:21

quel gros enculé cet Ozzy...

J'espère que Sabbath ne ressortira aucun album avec le père Ozzy!!

Message par **Everflow** » 12 oct. 2010, 23:11

Iommi a écrit une caisse de riffs pour un nouveau projet avec son comparse Geezer, à moins que cela ne se transforme en reformation de Black Sabbath pure et simple, pour l'instant ils n'ont pas choisi.

BLACK SABBATH/HEAVEN & HELL guitartist Tony Iommi has revealed to U.K.'s Metal Hammer magazine that he has begun work on new material with the hopes of launching the 'next phase" of his career alongside longtime SABBATH bandmate/bassist Geezer Butler. Whether or not this will be part of a BLACK SABBATH reunion or a new project remains unclear at present, but Iommi has said, "What I'm doing now is writing. I've gone mad, writing loads of riffs again. I'm really enjoying it, putting stuff together. We will be doing something. I'm in touch with Geezer a lot now and we’ve been talking about what the next phase is going to be. It'll be great to get out and do something again. I don't normally say this, but there's some great ideas coming out. That's all I've got to do right now. Sit and write riffs!"

Message par **olivier64** » 12 févr. 2011, 21:03

Bon, je crois que c'est définitif maintenant ...

Legendary bassist Geezer Butler has released the following statement via his official web site:

"I would like to make it clear, because of mounting speculation and rumors, that there will be definitely NO reunion of all for original members of BLACK SABBATH, whether to record an album or to tour."

et c'est peut être mieux comme ça.

Le seul point en suspens, c'est que vont faire Tony IOMMI et Geezer BUTLER ?