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Spiritual Beggars, nouveau chanteur
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Posté : 21 juil. 2010, 22:30
Posté : 21 juil. 2010, 23:11
cool pour le morceau, je le trouve pas mal! en dessous d'autres, mais je pense que cela peut faire un bon album!
Posté : 11 août 2010, 23:15
La gueule de l'édition japonaise, avec son poster.
Posté : 16 août 2010, 01:25
Interview d'Amott qui explique le choix du chanteur :
ARCH ENEMY guitarist Michael Amott is stoned again.
We’re speaking musically, of course, as he dusts off his long suffering stoner rock outfit SPIRITUAL BEGGARS. In the five years since the Demons album Amott has focused his energy on recording and touring with Arch Enemy – sandwiching brief forays with CARCASS here and there – but during a bout of rare downtime he felt it was time to sit back, relax, and get back to business. The end result is the aptly named Return To Zero, a meaty groove-and-doom outing that serves to remind people there’s a completely different side to Amott’s legacy of shred. There are moments on the album, in fact, where one wonders if it really is the same guy heading up both outfits, or if Amott had problems switching gears when he finally decided to slow things down.
“I was away from it for five years, so it is different,” Amott agrees, “but somehow I just morph into that rôle. It’s always obvious to me where the music is going to go when I’m sitting there with a guitar jamming. It’s very clear whether it’s going to be an Arch Enemy thing or a Spiritual Beggars thing. It’s fun because these guys are great musicians. There’s a great vibe between me and Ludwig (Witt / drums). He lives close by so there’s a place we go to jam, and now Sharlee (D’Angelo / bass) is in the band as well, so it’s very comfortable.”
“It’s mostly my writing, so everybody kind of waits until I’m ready,” he adds. “The problem was, with Per (Wilberg / keyboards) playing in OPETH, Ludwig’s involved in a number of things including FIREBIRD, me and Sharlee doing Arch Enemy, it’s a bit crazy trying to synchronize our schedules. It’s quite obvious that I need to do this band as well, although when everyone else goes on vacation I go into the studio to do pre-production (laughs).”
Having surfaced in 1994, Spiritual Beggars pre-dates Amott’s rise with Arch Enemy by two years, yet he’s best known for the latter’s death thrash sound over his comparatively sedate rock side. There’s always been a need for the Beggars as his other musical outlet, even if it can take up to half a decade to get around to putting an album together.
“When I quit Carcass, Spiritual Beggars was my only band for a couple years. I never planned it that way. I just thought that if I quit Carcass I didn’t want to jump into something similar, so I decided to take music from a different angle. I’m just a big fan of traditional hard rock and early heavy metal, ‘70s rock and I guess what you’d call classic or vintage rock,” says Amott. “I got into that later, though, because I was listening to SLAYER before I was listening to UFO. I completely missed out, so I basically went backwards. When I started to seriously get into music it started with ’82 punk rock, hard core, thrash metal, death metal, and by the time I was in Carcass I started to become curious about the origins of hard rock and metal. I loved BLACK SABBATH, but somebody gave me a tape of stuff like CACTUS and CAPTAIN BEYOND that opened my mind. I had no idea that there was this whole scene. It was a treasure chest of music, and after a while I got greedy and said ‘I want to do that’ (laughs).”
Spiritual Beggars gives Amott the opportunity to explore music as a solo guitarist of sorts. Where he and his brother Chris propel Arch Enemy forward, Amott is “forced” to step up and fill any potential holes on his own. He makes it clear, however, that Wilberg plays an important rôle as his second.
“In the late ’90s we brought in Per on keyboards, so he kind of fills that rôle of a second guitarist. We do some harmonizing, he does a lot of chords, so that really fills out the sound. It’s a lot of fun, because if I did something too similar to Arch Enemy it wouldn’t be invigorating at all.”
Return To Zero is trademark ‘70s-flavoured Spiritual Beggars, but the announcement prior to the recording sessions that vocalist Janne “JB” Christofferson had been replaced by FIREWIND frontman Apollo Papathanasio suggested this wouldn’t be the case. Up to this point Papathanasio has been known as a power metal singer, all bombast and polish, making his performance on Return To Zero a pleasant surprise. Amott says bringing him on board was indeed a case of getting past preconceived notions and hearing Papathanasio in a completely different environment.
“Apollo is a local guy, which is weird because everyone thinks he’s from Greece. His parents are Greek, but he was raised in Sweden. I’ve been aware of him forever, long before Firewind. When it became clear that JB couldn’t sing on the new record I was really disappointed and I seriously began thinking maybe that was it. Ludwig called me and suggested Apollo because the two of them play in a bar band doing cover songs. Apollo had in fact offered his help to get the ball rolling, get the songs done, rather than stepping in as a full time vocalist. I thought no, he’s too metal, but I thought ‘What the hell…’ and asked him to learn a few songs, then come down and jam."
“I was so surprised because he sounded like our first vocalist (Christian "Spice" Sjöstrand), he could really hit that pitch from the Ad Astra album. Apollo has this grit and attitude in his voice that I wasn’t aware he had. It was very cool, but I knew people were going to be very skeptical (laughs). When he did some JB stuff from On Fire and Demons it sounded great; I was really surprised by his range. Then we started working on a new song idea I had and Apollo threw out some vocal melodies and improvised, which is something Spiritual Beggars used to do. I really missed that whole jamming aspect of our songwriting, because JB lived eight hours away which made that impossible, so working with Apollo felt good. I felt there was some real potential.”
So much so that Amott had no issues with letting Papathansio contribute to Return To Zero even though the songs were complete by the time he was brought in.
“I’d written most of it already. I wrote the lyrics early on, there were a few co-writes, but it was mostly my stuff, so I had a pretty clear idea of where I wanted to go. The cool thing was even though I didn’t know Apollo that well on a creative level, he had all these ideas. It’s cool working with new people anyway, but it was fun working with him. He sinks his teeth into a song and might throw a hundred ideas at me (laughs). It became evident to me that he had a lot of experience in developing songs. In the studio as well, he came up with so many variations. It was great.”
But he hasn’t reached the point where he feels comfortable saying “Michael, I think that song idea sucks…”
“(Laughs) That’s always the problem, isn’t it? That’s like what happened to DEEP PURPLE. They did the Burn album with Coverdale and it was all good, then they do Stormbringer and Glenn Hughes wants to have his soul music on it. It was like, ‘We’ll discuss it in the corner some time…’”
Another advantage to having Papathansio in Spiritual Beggars – which will likely result in an open schedule for touring – is Firewind guitarist Gus G. replacing Zakk Wylde as Ozzy Osbourne’s right hand man for the forseeable future. At least as long as Ozzy’s new Scream album has legs.
“That was part of it,” Amott says of the decision to bring Papathansio on board. “The stuff with Gus getting the Ozzy gig had already happened when we started working on this album, so it was really cool for Gus but it left Apollo hanging to some degree. Firewind wasn’t doing as many shows as Apollo had been expecting, so it really opened up a window for him to work with Spiritual Beggars. It was good timing since Arch Enemy is also having a slow year, at least by our standards (laughs), so it made sense to do this.”
ARCH ENEMY guitarist Michael Amott is stoned again.
We’re speaking musically, of course, as he dusts off his long suffering stoner rock outfit SPIRITUAL BEGGARS. In the five years since the Demons album Amott has focused his energy on recording and touring with Arch Enemy – sandwiching brief forays with CARCASS here and there – but during a bout of rare downtime he felt it was time to sit back, relax, and get back to business. The end result is the aptly named Return To Zero, a meaty groove-and-doom outing that serves to remind people there’s a completely different side to Amott’s legacy of shred. There are moments on the album, in fact, where one wonders if it really is the same guy heading up both outfits, or if Amott had problems switching gears when he finally decided to slow things down.
“I was away from it for five years, so it is different,” Amott agrees, “but somehow I just morph into that rôle. It’s always obvious to me where the music is going to go when I’m sitting there with a guitar jamming. It’s very clear whether it’s going to be an Arch Enemy thing or a Spiritual Beggars thing. It’s fun because these guys are great musicians. There’s a great vibe between me and Ludwig (Witt / drums). He lives close by so there’s a place we go to jam, and now Sharlee (D’Angelo / bass) is in the band as well, so it’s very comfortable.”
“It’s mostly my writing, so everybody kind of waits until I’m ready,” he adds. “The problem was, with Per (Wilberg / keyboards) playing in OPETH, Ludwig’s involved in a number of things including FIREBIRD, me and Sharlee doing Arch Enemy, it’s a bit crazy trying to synchronize our schedules. It’s quite obvious that I need to do this band as well, although when everyone else goes on vacation I go into the studio to do pre-production (laughs).”
Having surfaced in 1994, Spiritual Beggars pre-dates Amott’s rise with Arch Enemy by two years, yet he’s best known for the latter’s death thrash sound over his comparatively sedate rock side. There’s always been a need for the Beggars as his other musical outlet, even if it can take up to half a decade to get around to putting an album together.
“When I quit Carcass, Spiritual Beggars was my only band for a couple years. I never planned it that way. I just thought that if I quit Carcass I didn’t want to jump into something similar, so I decided to take music from a different angle. I’m just a big fan of traditional hard rock and early heavy metal, ‘70s rock and I guess what you’d call classic or vintage rock,” says Amott. “I got into that later, though, because I was listening to SLAYER before I was listening to UFO. I completely missed out, so I basically went backwards. When I started to seriously get into music it started with ’82 punk rock, hard core, thrash metal, death metal, and by the time I was in Carcass I started to become curious about the origins of hard rock and metal. I loved BLACK SABBATH, but somebody gave me a tape of stuff like CACTUS and CAPTAIN BEYOND that opened my mind. I had no idea that there was this whole scene. It was a treasure chest of music, and after a while I got greedy and said ‘I want to do that’ (laughs).”
Spiritual Beggars gives Amott the opportunity to explore music as a solo guitarist of sorts. Where he and his brother Chris propel Arch Enemy forward, Amott is “forced” to step up and fill any potential holes on his own. He makes it clear, however, that Wilberg plays an important rôle as his second.
“In the late ’90s we brought in Per on keyboards, so he kind of fills that rôle of a second guitarist. We do some harmonizing, he does a lot of chords, so that really fills out the sound. It’s a lot of fun, because if I did something too similar to Arch Enemy it wouldn’t be invigorating at all.”
Return To Zero is trademark ‘70s-flavoured Spiritual Beggars, but the announcement prior to the recording sessions that vocalist Janne “JB” Christofferson had been replaced by FIREWIND frontman Apollo Papathanasio suggested this wouldn’t be the case. Up to this point Papathanasio has been known as a power metal singer, all bombast and polish, making his performance on Return To Zero a pleasant surprise. Amott says bringing him on board was indeed a case of getting past preconceived notions and hearing Papathanasio in a completely different environment.
“Apollo is a local guy, which is weird because everyone thinks he’s from Greece. His parents are Greek, but he was raised in Sweden. I’ve been aware of him forever, long before Firewind. When it became clear that JB couldn’t sing on the new record I was really disappointed and I seriously began thinking maybe that was it. Ludwig called me and suggested Apollo because the two of them play in a bar band doing cover songs. Apollo had in fact offered his help to get the ball rolling, get the songs done, rather than stepping in as a full time vocalist. I thought no, he’s too metal, but I thought ‘What the hell…’ and asked him to learn a few songs, then come down and jam."
“I was so surprised because he sounded like our first vocalist (Christian "Spice" Sjöstrand), he could really hit that pitch from the Ad Astra album. Apollo has this grit and attitude in his voice that I wasn’t aware he had. It was very cool, but I knew people were going to be very skeptical (laughs). When he did some JB stuff from On Fire and Demons it sounded great; I was really surprised by his range. Then we started working on a new song idea I had and Apollo threw out some vocal melodies and improvised, which is something Spiritual Beggars used to do. I really missed that whole jamming aspect of our songwriting, because JB lived eight hours away which made that impossible, so working with Apollo felt good. I felt there was some real potential.”
So much so that Amott had no issues with letting Papathansio contribute to Return To Zero even though the songs were complete by the time he was brought in.
“I’d written most of it already. I wrote the lyrics early on, there were a few co-writes, but it was mostly my stuff, so I had a pretty clear idea of where I wanted to go. The cool thing was even though I didn’t know Apollo that well on a creative level, he had all these ideas. It’s cool working with new people anyway, but it was fun working with him. He sinks his teeth into a song and might throw a hundred ideas at me (laughs). It became evident to me that he had a lot of experience in developing songs. In the studio as well, he came up with so many variations. It was great.”
But he hasn’t reached the point where he feels comfortable saying “Michael, I think that song idea sucks…”
“(Laughs) That’s always the problem, isn’t it? That’s like what happened to DEEP PURPLE. They did the Burn album with Coverdale and it was all good, then they do Stormbringer and Glenn Hughes wants to have his soul music on it. It was like, ‘We’ll discuss it in the corner some time…’”
Another advantage to having Papathansio in Spiritual Beggars – which will likely result in an open schedule for touring – is Firewind guitarist Gus G. replacing Zakk Wylde as Ozzy Osbourne’s right hand man for the forseeable future. At least as long as Ozzy’s new Scream album has legs.
“That was part of it,” Amott says of the decision to bring Papathansio on board. “The stuff with Gus getting the Ozzy gig had already happened when we started working on this album, so it was really cool for Gus but it left Apollo hanging to some degree. Firewind wasn’t doing as many shows as Apollo had been expecting, so it really opened up a window for him to work with Spiritual Beggars. It was good timing since Arch Enemy is also having a slow year, at least by our standards (laughs), so it made sense to do this.”
Posté : 03 sept. 2010, 16:11
Un autre titre a écouter: http://www.myspace.com/spiritualbeggars
Posté : 03 sept. 2010, 23:23
ouai il est bof ce morceau quand même... et pourtant je ne suis pas difficile
Posté : 03 sept. 2010, 23:34
moi j'accroche bien 
Posté : 04 sept. 2010, 12:22
Je trouve que son chant ne colle pas à Spiritual et la compo est vraiment basique... j'ai peur qu'on ait attendu très longtemps pour un disque bien moyen... 
Posté : 06 sept. 2010, 11:14
ça me ferai vraiment chier !!! bon l'album est sorti, je vais quand même me le prendre dans la semaine... On verra bien, j'ai bien aimé "Demons" mais je l'avais quand même trouvé en dessous de "On Fire", je mets pas mal d'espoir dans le dernier en fait !!!Murder-One a écrit :Je trouve que son chant ne colle pas à Spiritual et la compo est vraiment basique... j'ai peur qu'on ait attendu très longtemps pour un disque bien moyen...
Posté : 17 sept. 2010, 13:44
J'ai l'album depuis 1 semaine, un bon paquet d'écoute, bon album mais bon il manque quelquechose, j'attendais un poi plus du groupe, dèjà le chanteur, bon il se débrouille pas trop mal mais franchement il à du mal à faire la comparaison avec "JB" (et avec "Spice" aussi par la même occas, le 1er chanteur du groupe) ça manque de coffre et d'agressivité tout ça !!
l'album est vraiment différent de "Demons" qui était très heavy avec un mix assez agressif, là c'est beaucoup plus light je dirai, bon on retrouve quand même la patte Amott qui est un sacré gratteux et un bon compositeur, y' des titres vraiment bons, je retiendrais "Star Born" morceau vraiment typique Spiritual et qui passe vraiment très bien, "We are Free", "Concrete Horizon",
"Believe in Me", il y a aussi un bonus track assez sympa sur la version digipack "Time to Live", voilà, le reste m'a moins botté, si ce n'est un break d'enfer sur "The chaos of Rebirth", le morceau est banal mais vers le milieu du morceau ça s'arrange très bien grace au talent d'Amott !!! "Coming Home" est bien aussi on va dire !
Voilà, j'attends toujours un digne successeur à "On fire" qui est pour moi le meilleur album du groupe ou pas loin.
l'album est vraiment différent de "Demons" qui était très heavy avec un mix assez agressif, là c'est beaucoup plus light je dirai, bon on retrouve quand même la patte Amott qui est un sacré gratteux et un bon compositeur, y' des titres vraiment bons, je retiendrais "Star Born" morceau vraiment typique Spiritual et qui passe vraiment très bien, "We are Free", "Concrete Horizon",
"Believe in Me", il y a aussi un bonus track assez sympa sur la version digipack "Time to Live", voilà, le reste m'a moins botté, si ce n'est un break d'enfer sur "The chaos of Rebirth", le morceau est banal mais vers le milieu du morceau ça s'arrange très bien grace au talent d'Amott !!! "Coming Home" est bien aussi on va dire !
Voilà, j'attends toujours un digne successeur à "On fire" qui est pour moi le meilleur album du groupe ou pas loin.
Posté : 19 sept. 2010, 20:37
Je n'ai écouté que quelques extraits, mais la voix d'Apollo me plaît beaucoup, elle me rappelle celle de Graham BONNETT (Rainbow, MSG), une voix très chaude et puissante. Pour moi, c'est une très belle découverte.
Posté : 20 sept. 2010, 18:23
Je l'ai acheté à sa sortie, mais je ne l'ai pas encore écouté. Voilà ! 
Posté : 21 sept. 2010, 19:43
Ben vas-y, écoute-le, et dis nous tout ! 
Posté : 24 sept. 2010, 01:11
ca y est je l'ai enfin recu et je ne suis pas déçu loin de la,c'est même le contraire !
en tant que fan du chanteur je suis comblé,cette voix chaude et groovy a la coverdale/graham bonnet est vraiment le meilleur choix pour ce groupe(malgré que j'adore JB).
il y a effectivement une petite évolution par rapport au passé,les compos sont peut être moins ''sauvage'' que par le passé,plus simple, mais quel feeling !
si vous aimez le classic-rock/hard-rock c'est un album pour vous!
par moment on croirait même entendre le WHITESNAKE de la grande époque(plutôt celle fin 70's-début 80's)d'autres influences a la UFO-THIN LIZZY-MSG se font également sentir(et je ne parle pas de BLACK SABBATH-DEEP PURPLE evidemment)..
des la premiere écoute j'ai embarqué et pas qu'un peu,les écoutes suivantes n'ont fait que me conforter,un de mes favoris pour l'album de l'année en ce qui me concerne.
en tant que fan du chanteur je suis comblé,cette voix chaude et groovy a la coverdale/graham bonnet est vraiment le meilleur choix pour ce groupe(malgré que j'adore JB).
il y a effectivement une petite évolution par rapport au passé,les compos sont peut être moins ''sauvage'' que par le passé,plus simple, mais quel feeling !
si vous aimez le classic-rock/hard-rock c'est un album pour vous!par moment on croirait même entendre le WHITESNAKE de la grande époque(plutôt celle fin 70's-début 80's)d'autres influences a la UFO-THIN LIZZY-MSG se font également sentir(et je ne parle pas de BLACK SABBATH-DEEP PURPLE evidemment)..
des la premiere écoute j'ai embarqué et pas qu'un peu,les écoutes suivantes n'ont fait que me conforter,un de mes favoris pour l'album de l'année en ce qui me concerne.
Posté : 25 sept. 2010, 09:03
Cet album est génial de bout en bout. On a juste de remettre la galette dans la chaîne, une fois fini.steelprophet a écrit :des la premiere écoute j'ai embarqué et pas qu'un peu,les écoutes suivantes n'ont fait que me conforter,un de mes favoris pour l'album de l'année en ce qui me concerne.
Amott est un géant : il nous a composé des titres sublimes. Ecoutez donc : Lost In Yesterday, The Chaos Of Rebirth, We Are Free, Coming Home (énorme), ....
Le départ de JB est bien compensé par l'arrivée du gars de Firewind. C'est l'album le plus accessible, et le plus réussi depuis Demons selon moi, de Spiritual Beggars. On est plus dans le Stoner pur, mais dans une forme évoluée du rock suédois.
A quand un passage en France ?
Posté : 25 sept. 2010, 09:38
En même temps entre Demons et celui-là, il n'y a pas eu d'albums !!!Titou a écrit :et le plus réussi depuis Demons selon moi
Posté : 26 sept. 2010, 13:24
Ma phrase n'est pas très bien tournée. 
Je voulais bien sûr dire : c'est le plus réussi avec Demons et Ad Astra (bien qu'appartenant à une autre période du groupe). Mantra III est bon, mais peut-être trop expérimental. Quant à On Fire, il est un poil répétitif.
Je voulais bien sûr dire : c'est le plus réussi avec Demons et Ad Astra (bien qu'appartenant à une autre période du groupe). Mantra III est bon, mais peut-être trop expérimental. Quant à On Fire, il est un poil répétitif.
Posté : 26 sept. 2010, 23:04
Bien d'accord avec toi, à part au sujet de Mantra III que je mettrais devant Demons. Mantra III et Ad Astra sont vraiment mes albums préférés du groupe.
Posté : 28 sept. 2010, 13:28
Je suis en train de découvrir ce groupe et "Oh My God !" c'est tout ce que j'aime. La voix d'Apollo est remarquable, et me rappelle des grands comme Coverdale ou Bonnett. Je suis aux anges !!! La musique n'est pas en reste, et les soli de gratte assurent un maximum. Je vais acheter leur dernier album, et sûrement remonter ensuite vers ce qu'ils ont fait. Je remarque aussi qu'il y a des similitudes entre le chant de JB et celui d'Apollo. Je pense que ce groupe devrait atteindre des sommets, aux côtés des grands.
Posté : 28 sept. 2010, 15:51
Je l'ai enfin écouté (bon une fois seulement pour l'instant), et cette première écoute m'a bien fait kiffer ! L'album semble être un très bon cru. Et perso, j'aime beaucoup la voix du nouveau chanteur.
Posté : 28 sept. 2010, 17:00
Bonne nouvelle ce que tu dis là !
Je l'ai commandé à la FNAC et je l'aurai à la fin de la semaine.
Je l'ai commandé à la FNAC et je l'aurai à la fin de la semaine.
Posté : 29 sept. 2010, 00:44
je n'ai pas ''demons'' mais j'ai ''on fire'' et la aussi ,tu risque de prendre ta claque !un album de hard seventies avec une production actuelle avec un chanteur rempli de feelingSTEELER a écrit :Je vais acheter leur dernier album, et sûrement remonter ensuite vers ce qu'ils ont fait. Je remarque aussi qu'il y a des similitudes entre le chant de JB et celui d'Apollo. .
Posté : 29 sept. 2010, 12:02
On Fire est un peu longuet je trouve, j'ai toujours eu plus de mal avec celui-là qu'avec les autres.
Posté : 29 sept. 2010, 19:58
Les propos de Steelprophet me font baver d'impatience ! Vivement Samedi que je reçoive ma commande !
Posté : 08 oct. 2010, 17:41
Je l'ai depuis 4 jours ! 7 écoutes...ah, que dire et par où commencer. Il y a beaucoup de superbes références dans cet album : Black Sabbath époque Sabotage et Heaven and Hell, Rainbow et MSG. Les Spiritual Beggars font dans le Heavy/Hard Rock vintage, ce qui me plaît, en effet, cet album est de grande qualité et la musique, même si elle rappelle les Aînés, est couronnée par la voix FASCINANTE d'Apollo (entre Coverdale et Graham Bonnet). Après "The Guessing Game" de CATHEDRAL, voici ma 2eme claque de l'année!